Has USC become more selective than Berkeley & UCLA?

<p>UCIalum you obviously aren’t that informed on USC because #3 is wrong. </p>

<p>USC does not offer early action nor early decision.</p>

<p>You must be confused by the two deadlines the scholarship one and the regular one. The scholarship deadline is in December, and that’s so that you can be considered for merit aid. It has nothing to do with being accepted early.</p>

<p>well i think it’s all about your major. UCLA maybe more selective than UC Berkeley, but this would not be the case for someone who applied engineering or business.</p>

<p>im gonna sound like an a$$, immature, but you USC fanboys need to shut up and accept that you arent as good - the fact that you feel the need to constantly defend urselves against ucla shows that you feel inferior</p>

<p>I think most people around the world think that California is definitely better than USC, and USC is not as overall good as UCLA. </p>

<p>On a much lighter note, here are the California Ivies:</p>

<p>California, Cal Tech, UCLA, Stanfurd, UCSD, UCSF, Pomona/Harvey Mudd/Claremont, and USC.</p>

<p>California Ivies +4: MIT, University of Chicago, University of Michigan, Johns Hopkins University. </p>

<p>However, I must admit that USC has a lot of Southern California pride. You can tell in the academic writings. Its football team had to overcome tremendous anti West Coast odds for two years straight to help everyone else reach equality in treatment for West Coast football teams. We all know that even though we don’t say it openly because of school pride. Thanks. =D</p>

<p>UCIalum may be referring to [USC</a> Early Entrance](<a href=“http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/general_studies/RHP/]USC”>http://www.usc.edu/dept/LAS/general_studies/RHP/). This allows gifted high school juniors to effectively skip their senior year of high school. I don’t think it has much effect on the selectivity of USC, however.</p>

<p>specialK, your statement has no credibility, as you said so yourself. If someone presents lies or biased opinions as facts, and others believe him or her, it is necessary to set the record straight…</p>

<p>dang…all of you are saying how USC looks soley on SAT Is and auto accepts any high sat mark student i find it fustrating…
i got 1460 and my buddy got 1530 both of us got rejected, yet they’re people with 1290 who got in…and a few in 1300s got in too… whats going on :(</p>

<p>I got accepted into UCLA and Cal, but rejected from USC (and NYU).</p>

<p>Okay, let’s all settle down and look at this a little bit more clearly:</p>

<p>UCLA, being part of the UC system, is obligated to accept some students that are “below the curve” so to speak. I don’t want to launch into some race-related argument, but the fact is that Comprehensive Review takes into account ethnicity with many students who have lower SAT scores and GPAs.</p>

<p>HOWEVER, most students still are going to be at the same level if not somewhat higher than USC. Nonetheless, the tail end of the curve is going to affect the median (or mean, I forget what they use) score on the SAT range. It doesn’t mean that it’s easier to get into UCLA. I sincerely doubt it’s any easier to get into UCLA than it is to Cal or USC or any combination is easier. Think of UCLA this way: The top student at UCLA is going to be as academically strong as any top university student. Unfortunately, due to UCLA’s “public” nature, however, the bottom is much much lower than many private counterparts.</p>

<p>There are three types of lies in this world: lies, damned lies, and statistics. Colleges are rather fond of the third type. </p>

<p>You should all be glad you go to fantastic schools, and just shut up.</p>

<p>once again, USC Fanboys.</p>

<p>NOT AGAIN!!!
To explain the whole SAT is higher thing-</p>

<p>USC and many private colleges combine BEST eng. and math scores from any amt. of SATs taken</p>

<p>UCs accept the best ONE TIME score.</p>

<p>Difference can be huge…for many- up to about 200 points!</p>

<p>Therefore- USC is solid, but not quite UCLA or Cal. But they have a great football team!</p>

<p>I just hope they keep it up with Olson gone! PAC-10 needs the money!</p>

<p>“Wow you’re dumb. SAT scores are not the only factors that determine selectiveness. You yourself posted the admit rates, buddy. You’re proving your own point wrong.”</p>

<p>keep telling yourself that pal. the truth is, most state schools, the truth is, if you want to be a shoe-in, get good test scores. honestly nothing speaks better in terms of academic ability. I have never bought into the “I am not a good test taker” business because thats what college is, tests. </p>

<p>Like i said before, if you get good scores and reasonable grades you have a lot more options. admissions can raise an eyebrow at low test scores with good grades, but test scores are just a great indication of ability, bottom line.</p>

<p>“im gonna sound like an a$$, immature, but you USC fanboys need to shut up and accept that you arent as good - the fact that you feel the need to constantly defend urselves against ucla shows that you feel inferior”</p>

<p>now what if we were accepted to UCLA, CAL, and USC??? you sound like a moron. I am going to USC next year because I can already tell that if you are the best then they will treat you like you are. Go to UCLA, you will be a nobody.</p>

<p>"dang…all of you are saying how USC looks soley on SAT Is and auto accepts any high sat mark student i find it fustrating…
i got 1460 and my buddy got 1530 both of us got rejected, yet they’re people with 1290 who got in…and a few in 1300s got in too… whats going on "</p>

<p>damn dude that is a trip, really weird…those are 2 damn good scores, seems like they should have made it in (i got a 1530, got in fine)</p>

<p>USC may be becoming more and more selective</p>

<p>but it’s not really as good as UCLA or Berkele in my opinion, just not there yet</p>

<p>on a final note, why does everyone place an emphasis on selectivity? what makes a good school a good school? is it the quality of education? thats what I would think, but I see so many people talk about how good a school is due to the caliber of people who attend it. I almost always disregard this. why? because unless you are the better than every single person there, it doesn’t matter! I simply don’t care that students at UCLA are smarter than students at USC because they aren’t the ones teaching classes!</p>

<p>“the truth is, most state schools, the truth is, if you want to be a shoe-in, get good test scores. honestly nothing speaks better in terms of academic ability.”</p>

<p>true… except for highly selective state schools (i.e. berkeley, ucla). scores arent the only things that matter. in fact, the UC’s haven’t placed its highest emphasis on SAT scores (dont know about the new SAT though). more specifically, because there are so many applicants with similar scores applying to berkeley and ucla, they are forced to look at other factors in determining admissions… GPA, extracurriculars, perhaps even essay! GPA especially. </p>

<p>that being said, i know a friend who was rejected to all UC’s that she applied to except riverside. 1550 sat. poor sophomore gpa.</p>

<p>kfc4u i completely agree…i went a bit overboard with the importance of test scores, but the point im trying to get across are that you really can’t dispute a good test score, so score well!</p>

<p>and I am good at using the term the truth is…</p>

<p>theres a few people i know that i am shocked they got in. one of them had a 3.5, 1180, & decent but not super impressive ECs (got accepted to architecture) and another guy who has like a 3.8, took basic classes & no aps/honors, also got around 1180 i think, and no ECs. the only thing that he does is modeling, so i dunno maybe they just want hot people there</p>