<p>She doesn’t go to University of Michigan, NearL.</p>
<p>“I’m willing to bet your bitter b*tching didn’t stop the college from accepting her. What makes you think it’s going to have any impact now?”</p>
<p>I am not bitter b<em>tching, I am tutoring her and b</em>tching that the university doesn’t offer her enough resources to succeed BESIDES the scholarship. As I have already stated, it’s not the scholarship that bothers me, but the fact that they don’t do enough to make the scholarship count. I am not saying she shouldn’t have financial assistance going to college. You are getting all worked up without even understanding what I am trying to say. I don’t WANT her money as long as it’s truly being used to help her, but I honestly believe that some universities give scholarships and then forget all about these students because they are more concerned with their image than taking care of their students. So by all means, give her the scholarship, but actually help her USE it.</p>
<p>Who are you to say that these students don’t deserve what they’ve received?</p>
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<p>Then what’s the problem? There are plenty of barely literate college graduates. That a student has a scholarship and can barely read at some podunk directional university shouldn’t surprise anyone. The average college student shouldn’t be in college and the average college shouldn’t offer anything but math, science and engineering.</p>
<p>I can’t imagine why you think that’s acceptable. </p>
<p>Eastern Michigan may not be top 30 but I would hardly call it podunk, it has a very reputable teaching program in Michigan and many of my (not-Detroit public) school district’s teachers have degrees from there.</p>
<p>Oh, so you were being hyperbolic. No way she could pass any classes if she couldn’t read. How would she take a test? Maybe your school accepted her because she’s a disadvantaged minority, but professors don’t have to pass her. </p>
<p>Maybe you should suggest that she go to the Writing Center and work with someone there next time she hands you a paper. Or you can sit down with her and try to improve her writing skills. It’s not easy to learn how to write effectively when you’re young and malleable, let alone at college age.</p>
<p>Just because it’s widespread NearL, doesn’t mean it’s acceptable.</p>
<p>If someone can’t read or write well or at all at the age of 18, something’s seriously wrong with the situation.</p>
<p>She apparently manages to read and write well enough for a 2.0, I don’t know what she does with her reading but I help her with her writing. I have similar issues with her as with my dyslexic boyfriend… for example, having to say, “Read this out loud and listen. Does it still make sense to you?” and even if she recognizes it doesn’t she still has a hard time writing it better on a second attempt, her words are entirely jumbled and she doesn’t appear to know how to even structure a paper, we are still working on the concepts of introduction and conclusion. Unfortunately the reading out loud technique doesn’t work as well for her as her reading is poor as well and the extra step often messes her up even more. Incidentally, my boyfriend also attended Detroit Public Schools for a time before his parents transferred him to a private school, he struggles a lot too even dyslexia aside. I understand that this is college and there isn’t supposed to be anyone to hold your hand anymore, but it seems to me if the school is knowingly spending money to bring students to college, they had damn well better support them as best as they can to help them succeed. They deserve it.</p>
<p>Most 18 year olds can’t read or write well. America’s educational system is broken.</p>
<p>I stole my own spot :P</p>
<p>Any stats? Unbiased articles? Even personal experience?</p>
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<p>I’m not sure what your ‘Oh well, that’s just the way it is.’ attitude’s going to solve.</p>
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<p>Overall, she was an underachiever at college, and had chosen a major which Department was, usually, the stronghold against AA, usualy clashing with the ‘let’s-diversify’-approach of Uni. She was frequentely seen clubbing and even drinking (when she was underage). Her family lived in a nice suburb of a Shoutwest State big city, and they only had a second home in the reservation, near to this city. Given this info:</p>
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<li><p>When she was not accepted into a given student society due to low GPA on begining of freshman’s spring semester, she filled for (and won) a waiver for the GPA requirement on claims that her “special conditions” (aka, coming from XYZ Indian Reservation) made adpatation for college life extremelly difficult (but adaptation to clubbing and underage drinking was nothing )</p></li>
<li><p>She tried, unsucessfully, to gain a seat on the board of Non-traditional Students Society. Getting the last rank in the polls, she claimed that she was victim of prejudice.</p></li>
<li><p>She did the same when she tried to start an awareness campaing of hurdles experienced by Native American students, requesting and having funding denied for not complaining with a SO funding program deadline which has been strictly enforced for ages. Because it would be the first program of this kind (few Native American studying there), she asked, again, a waiver (denied!).</p></li>
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<p>Working hard in college, for me, is made yourself entilted to positions, resources or programs without any consideration of your ethnic origin.</p>
<p>Interesting how some people know so much about their peers. I can’t say that I know, or care, that much about anyone’s stats.</p>
<p>So you chose someone who is the worst and horrible example for a human being as fodder against all URMs? That’s low. And sad. And you for sure have a stalker vibe.</p>
<p>Does she has to pick a major to correspond with the major you think is appropriate? Maybe she spent a lot of time on the reservation at her second home? What does her partying and drinking have anything to do with her academics and ECs?</p>
<p>She sounds more like a severe procrastinator than the terrible person you try to paint her as. The only one I’ll agree with you that she used her race to succeed is with #2. In that case, she was in the wrong and sounded ridiculous.</p>
<p>And how do you know so much about her? Do you also know the color of her bedroom and what she wears to bed too? LOL</p>
<p>My ex-gf had. But we both joined a semi-official organization in campus devoted to expose the injustice of AA and how it is detrimental to meritocracy. Our online newslatter and facebook group were quite large.</p>
<p>In the case of this Native American, we managed to get official documents from situation #1. Underage clubbing and drinking were irrelevant, our group could never spread this information. Her case was investigated (without any law, or statute, or honor code breaking) to provide info for our cause.</p>
<p>Our purpose was to promote an UCLA-like approach, where AA would be completely off-limits university-wide. Diversity in college, in our views, should be a consequence of diversity in the pool of excelent applicants, not a goal on itself.</p>
<p>We were and are NOT a bunch of white-supremacists wearing suasticas. It was just a group of overall successful students, including many that could be classified as minorities, pushing for equal treatment irrespective of your phenotype.</p>
<p>It is harder to pass balot measures in the Uni. state than it is in CA. There was a small incident in the region in which an African American teacher was hired by the district at expense of other two better qualified teachers (one white, other Asian) on the grounds that “African American kids and teenagers are entitled to have role models from their own background in a school where they represent XX% of student body”.</p>
<p>Constitutional Amendment banning AA should be passed, and the controversy would be over.</p>
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<p>I do enjoy your arguments about ‘meritocracy’. If America was a meritocracy, Asians would run America. They would be well-represented in Hollywood, at the top of finance and law, and politics. They’re the most impressive group in America. Yet, when all variables are accounted for whites make more than Asians. Why is that? </p>
<p>America has never been about merit, but if you DO want it to be about merit, and merit alone. Abolish admission variables at top schools that historically help whites like legacy status and athletic recruitment. Stop capping the amount of international students.</p>
<p>Then we’ll have merit. We’ll also have majority Asian schools.</p>
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<p>I can agree with this (Maybe more like a 1/3 of students [just that they shouldn’t, not that they shouldn’t have the right to]).</p>
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<p>This I find ridiculous. There are many skills that can be gained in college outside of those fields.</p>
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<p>Last I heard, Asians were not a super-race. They generally have a higher work ethic, but that doesn’t mean that all Asians are superior to all Whites, or any other race for that matter.</p>
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<p>So right. I love how some people call out other people’s racism to throw attention off of themselves. People like NearL should do some introspection before picking apart other people’s posts, trying to turn them into the Hitler of CC.</p>
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