Help find alleged kidnapper of 18 year old UVa student (abduction charges filed today)

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<p>Criminal charges have been officially filed tonight in the abduction of 18 year UVa student Hannah Graham against the “person of interest” Jesse Leroy Matthew Jr. He drove away at a high rate of speed from the police station on Saturday. Last seen driving to the east in a 1997 Nissan Sentra with Virginia plates. Wanted poster at the link.</p>

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<p>Last seen driving a car similar to this one.</p>

<p>The suspect in the disappearance of 18 yr old UVa Heather Graham was arrested today, after he fled to a lightly populated island near Galveston, Texas.</p>

<p>Let us all use this as a learning experience for our kids - to warn them to not walk around by themselves in unfamiliar areas, particularly when they are intoxicated.</p>

<p>Considering that several young women have vanished from the same area over the past few years, I have to wonder why the police and campus officials haven’t cracked down on the serving of underage students in the local bars? Sure, kids can get a fake ID, but they don’t usually go to the bother of having more than one- so ask them for two forms of ID before admitting them to the bar. Heavy drinking is a huge problem on campuses- alcohol poisoning, date violence and something as terrible as this situation with Hannah. It’s not just a problem in Charlottesville, but bars in other communities have begun refusing admission altogether to underage students.If the bars don’t comply, they lose their liquor license- no arguments.
No, it’s not and is never the girls’ fault in these cases, but remaining in control of one’s faculties is key to safety. Getting so drunk that you’re staggering or don’t know where you are leads to poor judgement calls and places a girl in real danger from predators. I really hope that Hannah is found safely but I fear that will not be the case.</p>

<p>Interestingly, the UVA president did not support the Amethyst Initiative back in 2008…<a href=“Amethyst Initiative - Wikipedia”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amethyst_Initiative&lt;/a&gt; , so one would think there might be an interest in shutting down the underage drinking, at least in local bars. </p>

<p>There are now allegations that he was accused of a rape at Jerry Fallwell’s Liberty University, while he was a student. Allegedly, the University expelled him, but didn’t pursue criminal charges.</p>

<p>By the way, I don’t think most underage drinking among UVa students occurs inside bars.</p>

<p>I posted on the general thread about this. </p>

<p>This is another case of students KNOWING a classmate was drinking too much (and underage for it too) and letting her go ALONE out in the night in that condition. Yes, someone offered to accompany her, and she turned down the offer, from what I have read.</p>

<p>These students like to think of themselves as adults and want to be so treated, but the fact of the matter is that most of us adults would be in SO much trouble if we had a dinner/party function at our homes and served alcohol to under aged folks, let them walk out “highly intoxicated” (exact words used to describe Hannah’s condition when she left the place) and someone disappeared, got hurt, got killed, drove a car and caused harm. I hope UVA is on top of those kids HARD, as well as their parents, any student organizations involved. LE has hands full dealing with finding Hannah and the suspect in the case, and I don’t expect charges to be filed against these students. BUt instead of these feel good rallies UVA is doing and the searches, there should be some serious talk about safety.</p>

<p>I went to a college in the Dark Ages, and yes there were drugs and drink. Lived in the area about 10 years after school, and NOT ONE student was killed, or abducted walking alone after dark on drugs or otherwise confused. Never heard of such a thing though all kinds of issues happened. I don’t think the worst of us would have let someone drunk or otherwise walk out alone at night. </p>

<p>I know personally of a half dozen cases now–know a parent or the kid who died or disappeared in such scenarios. Lauren Spierer, injured, doped up, drunk, no cell phone, bare foot allowed to walk home at 4AM to her apt, never made it. Kid at Kenyon, walking home drunk from frat party, Dad is a CMU prof, kid is an only child, found dead from hypothermia and alcohol poisoning. Left the party drunk, no one cared. Two of my friends lost their kids on sofas at bashes when they just didn’t wake up. Both were dirinking, drugging it up, one hit his head and lay down, the other just lay down, and they never woke up. A visiting student from BC leaves a party alone drunk, gets lost and is found dead. Seems to me these young people do not look out for each other. Charlotte Spierer sadly noted other disoriented young women in the wee hours of the night walking around alone, even within the year of her daughter’s disappearance in the same area. </p>

<p>I suspect Hannah was texting friends that she was lost, people knew she was drunk, alone, lost, and nothing. THey didn’t even notice her missing for a day and half, and it was her apt mates who did. </p>

<p>I’m not one who supports locking up kids, I think 18 is fine as the legal drinking age, but I also think these students serving alcohol should be made responsible for their guests. This case angers me on a lot of levels. </p>

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<p>I agree with you, however unfortunately I think a lot of kids drink in their dorms, and are drunk before they even get to the party/bar. I would wager that no one realizes a friend has wandered off, because all of them are totally inebriated.</p>

<p>Totally agree that there are two side to the drunk underage college student in danger … the kid who drank, and the people who served him/her and didn’t take responsibility for that. They need to crack down hard on the suppliers, not just give them a slap on the wrist. Hefty fines that no college student can afford, and 1 step away from suspension if they step one more toe out of line <em>on any issue</em>. Maybe then they’ll start thinking twice about who they’re serving and how much they’re serving. </p>

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<p>“Seems to me these young people do not look out for each other.”</p>

<p>Seems like they don’t look out for themselves. I don’t believe that the choice to disable oneself imposes duties on bystanders. If they volunteer to prevent a student from harming herself, that’s generous on their part. But I just can’t see where it’s the job of a party guest to prevent a fellow adult from leaving a party.</p>

<p>The law puts burdens on providers of alcohol for public health reasons; it’s an efficient way to promote moderation. But I just can’t put any blame on partygoer A for the awful outcome of partygoer B’s bad choices.</p>

<p>When I was in college, it was impossible to tell another guy he had enough to drink and he should go home and sleep it off even the guy you knew fairly well. You had to be either his best friend or some kind of authority figures to him to have a chance of him listening to you.</p>

<p>Can this be merged with the existing thread? </p>

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