<p>If you leave HS, take 5-6 years off, then go to a top 30 university, do well for a year and a half or two and apply for transfer to the most competitive schools, do you get your own little group/docket (of older/non-traditional students) to be compared to and be competitive in, you know, kinda like a minority student… Or do you have to compete with all the transfers?
Thank you for your help.</p>
<p>You’re unique owed to your age and experience. I would think they would grab your because you’re different from the rest of the herd. Mount Holyoke does it. They love Moms and others who’ve gone back to school after having worked in the real world… adds perspective to thier lovely campus…</p>
<p>many schools have programs to draw in us older folks, with life experiences, and non traditional paths</p>
<p>Keep in mind that I am currently pursuing a traditional path even though I am a non-traditional student and I’d like to keep it that way. I don’t want to go for a special program. I am having a hard enough time finding adequate challenge in a classroom with the young kids that are fresh out of HS, well prepared, and don’t have to support a family… I hope this doesn’t sound bad. I am just determined to do it the way I should have, and to be the best I can be. So far I have been successful. I am a few courses away from completing a pre-med track with a 4.00 at a tier I school.</p>
<p>P.S. sorry for using the word “kids” when I look like “them”… most students in my class think that I am not even old enough to drink!!! very flattering! I think school has had a rejuvenating effect on me!</p>
<p>NEKOCASE - your post makes me laugh - having been a non-traditional student myself years ago LOL - and a few very very memorable pranks are still remembered - of course done by us non-trads LOL… we were - oooooooooo about 10 years off the freshman mark as well. Actually a couple of my ‘class mates’ and I are still good friends.</p>
<p>HAHA with all the preppy undergrads teetering around campus - here I would arrive with my 4w-drive truck - my pup in tow - my hair in braids - sporting my back-pack - and this was years ago LOL… and I would still hang out in the dorms with my ‘friends’ and the d-hall - and the study hall - I commutted a long distance so I was adopted as either the coolest mom in town or I had 10 kids living back at my log cabin - kept them guessing tho hahahahahahaha - then convert me to my professional atire - whites - and they would go in to shock - those were definitely the days…</p>
<p>And yes - I love the word kids!!!</p>
<p>In one of my educational adventures - I was the youngest by 10 years - and in the other - the older by 10 years - talk about conflict!!!</p>
<p>Neko,</p>
<p>Wouldnt happen to be a really, really good singer would youotherwise, where, or how did you come by the name of the one who is?</p>
<p>I’m a bit of a fan.</p>
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<p>Re: the original post, #1:
<sarcasm>So… when minority students apply to colleges their app packages are sequestered with the packages of other minority students and then an admission decision is made on them based on how they compare to that small demographic? Is that how it works?</sarcasm> If this is what you are implying by your statement, it just floors me that there is still a belief among some that minorities are admitted to colleges and universities (or hired for jobs, or any other number of things) based on their race or ethnicity, rather than their own strong merits.</p>
<p>lol,
there are demographic, ethinc and many other dockets.
just an example: a given stanford adcom takes all the applications from a given state (st two) and starts working. after he/she is done, 60% of the applications that he/she started with are rejected. 40% go to the second round. confirmed in black and white. so some people believe that being from North Dakota is a hook, when it is just some manifested antithesis of competition. it goes without saying that the accepted students form New Jersey will have higher statistics than the ones from Nebraska or Wisconsin simply because there is more competition.
now, there is competition within these dockets and it is almost exclusively within them, whether you want it or not.
in most schools the applications of minorities constitute separate dockets so they can be kept track of and certain compliance to partially predetermined (or if you’d like targeted) minimal distribution is assured.
in conclusion, you being some kind of minority, will compete predominantly with minorities. that’s quite different than getting in because you are a minority students and far from being indicative of any compromise. you simply have different competition. yo from your docket, at least in the forst round. u should know that. so shush now i am trying to get some advice from people who know.
also, i was not suggesting anything. i am asking, not because my statistics are insufficient but because if considered in a docked they with be right up there on #1. if this is the case, the adcoms might overlook some other imperfections that i possess (like being angry and supercilious right now) and i might have a chance…</p>
<p>p.s. i am a minority myself so chill.</p>
<p>Hey, I am in the same boat, and I wish there was one place we can all discuss this issue.</p>
<p>Anyway, I know what you are saying… and so do the folks at Columbia University. They are the only ones I have found (so far) that actually have a “separate entrance” to the university for the non-traditional student. And this is not some special curriculum or different education…once you are in - you get the same Columbia University education/degree/whatever as any other Columbia student.</p>
<p>As I referred to in these [url=<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=2019335#post2019335]other[/url”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=2019335#post2019335]other[/url</a>] [url=<a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=2019375#post2019375]posts[/url”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/showthread.php?p=2019375#post2019375]posts[/url</a>], it more like a non-traditional application for the “non-traditional” student.</p>
<p>So, does anyone know if all schools offer this type of app, or if it has a proper label (so a search on a school’s site will produce the right results)? Or is it pretty much a searching keyword game that is different on every university’s site?</p>
<p>“They are the only ones I have found (so far) that actually have a “separate entrance” to the university for the non-traditional student. And this is not some special curriculum or different education…once you are in - you get the same Columbia University education/degree/whatever as any other Columbia student.”</p>
<p>This isn’t even close to being true. <a href=“http://www.smith.edu/ada/[/url]”>http://www.smith.edu/ada/</a></p>
<p>mini, what are you talking about? what’s with the “this isn’t even close to being true.” comment?</p>
<p>There are literally dozens of colleges and universities with separate entrances for non-traditional students, where they do not have a special curriculum or different education. The median age of American college students is currently 24 (meaning half are older). </p>
<p>The entire state university where I live (Evergreen) is organized this way.</p>
<p>whoa, then relax. My post wasn’t saying “don’t even try buddy, there is only one such program in this world.” All I said (and this is quite literal) is that I have only found one… if you read further, you would have realized that I am more than eager to be made aware of any more.</p>
<p>*“So, does anyone know if all schools offer this type of app, or if…” *</p>
<p>Oh, sorry. Smith and Mount Holyoke among the women’s colleges. Harvard claims that the Extension School doesn’t have a different curriculum or different education, and is taught by the same faculty (though it is in the evenings.) Evergreen looks for maturer students, but the curriculum and offerings are exactly the same for everyone. I think George Washington has a program with a “separate entrance”. New School in New York City (which has some extraordinary stuff!) Mills College, and University of San Francisco, I think. These are the ones that immediately come to mind.</p>