Help me plan a trip to Seattle and down the California coast

<p>We decided to plan a last minute vacation this summer … flying from East Coast out to Seattle and then to San Francisco. Will rent a car and drive down to San Diego to fly back east. We tentatively will leave on a Monday, spend that week, and leave to go back east the following Thursday or Friday - about 10 nights/11 days.</p>

<p>All suggestions are welcome … where to stay (economically but central locations and decent but not extravagant accommodations,) what to see, whether to use public transportation or rental car, etc.</p>

<p>Should we rent the car when we get to San Francisco or when we leave to head south?</p>

<p>We’ve never been to Seattle and have spent very limited time in California.</p>

<p>No kids - just us.</p>

<p>you have to stop in Laguna…people think…kid place b/c of the show but imma regular visitor of Laguna…and i think my parents enjoy Laguna more then I do theres a lot of cute quaint shops…art gallerys a few interesting museums(a native american one and a art one) Its directly between LA and San Diego</p>

<p>Well the first thing I’d do is head north of San Francisco and visit wine country. :slight_smile: Don’t miss Point Lobos <a href=“http://pt-lobos.parks.state.ca.us/Information.htm[/url]”>http://pt-lobos.parks.state.ca.us/Information.htm&lt;/a&gt; When you are in the Santa Barbara/San Luis Obispo area be sure to visit the Madonna Inn. Every room is different and the bathrooms are wild too. <a href=“http://www.madonnainn.com/[/url]”>http://www.madonnainn.com/&lt;/a&gt; Another of my favorite places is San Juan Capistrano. Visit the mission and then the Michale Graves library which borrows many of the forms from the mission. <a href=“http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/gravessjc/gravessjc.html[/url]”>http://www.bluffton.edu/~sullivanm/gravessjc/gravessjc.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>twinmom: I think you may have too much on your agenda to really enjoy any one part of the trip. You could spend over a week just driving from SF to SD if you really want to see the sites and relax; or even a full week in the Seattle/Pacific NW area. Since it is just the two of you, there are some great stops. You need to decide if you want to “touch and run” or spend some time. </p>

<p>Seattle alone is a great city, surrounded by mountains, lakes and islands; plus the Olympic Penninusula and Ho Rainforrest. The sun comes up early this time of year and doesn’t set until after 9:30 pm…I could easily find 7 days worth of things to do here alone…ferry rides, Whidbey Island, Pioneer Square.</p>

<p>You could easily take the entire time from SF to SD; if you want to make it less time in the car and more time outside, taking walks, going to the beaches, seeing the sites. California is a really big state and if you are from the east, you won’t appreciate the distances…until you drive it!</p>

<p>San Francisco area has the city, plus the wine country surrounding it. You don’t need a car in the city, but do if you want to go to the wine country.</p>

<p>The Coast drive has Monterrey, Big Sur, but also long pretty stretches with not much to stop and do that can be done quickly. There is plenty there, but stops such as Morro Bay, Carmel, some of the Missions, etc require time… The drive from SF to LA, along the coastal route is more than 8 hours, even if you hardly stop except to eat and gas up a car. </p>

<p>The LA area has much to do and then between LA and SD you have Laguna…</p>

<p>I think you might want to consider a less expansive trip.</p>

<p>If you want to do some wine country visiting you don’t need to go north from San Francisco to Napa, you can go down Highway 1 or 101 to the wine area north of Santa Barbara. Rent the movie Sideways. Have fun! Rent yourself a Miata and pretend to be Dustin Hoffman in The Graduate coming home from Berkeley.</p>

<p>I’d like to be <em>with</em> Dustin Hoffman coming home from Berkeley. Shhhh…</p>

<p>Okay, back to trip tips.</p>

<p>Don’t have a car in SF. Public trans is good, parking is horrendous and parking overnight at most hotels is very expensive. I usually use priceline to book hotels in SF and wind up at the Hilton or Hyatt for app $75/night. Trip to wine country (Napa, Sonoma) recomended. If you have time drive on US 1 down the coast. See Big Sur, Monterey. San Simeon for Hearst Castle. Santa Barbara (eat at La Supra Rica - taco stand that was favorite of Julia Child). Lots to do in LA. Have a great time</p>

<p>When you’re in San Francisco, be sure to visit Muir Woods. It’s not far from the city and is truly beautiful.</p>

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<p>The one thing in San Francisco that I always recommend is the Exploratorium, which is a fascinating place that my H and I always enjoyed as much as the kids did!</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.exploratorium.edu/[/url]”>http://www.exploratorium.edu/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Carmel is beautiful. Walk around the town and have a look at the beautiful shops and galleries. Walk to the foot of Ocean Ave. and stroll along the lovely beach. While in the area, take the 17 Mile Drive through the Monterey Peninsula. Leave an afternoon for it because you’ll want to stop often. Have lunch at Pebble Beach or the Inn at Spanish Bay, or our favorite, the Spyglass Hill Grill.</p>

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<p>Another must-see in the area is the Monterey Bay Aquarium.</p>

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<p>When you leave Carmel/Monterey and head south on U.S. 1, be sure to time it so that you can stop at Nepenthe in the Big Sur for lunch. Spectacular views, if it’s clear. It’s about 30 miles south of Carmel.</p>

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<p>About 60 miles further south, you’ll come to San Simeon where you can visit the Hearst Castle.</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.hearst-castle.org/[/url]”>http://www.hearst-castle.org/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>We love to visit Santa Barbara when possible, even if we’re just passing through. Beautiful city. The zoo is great and there are a couple of good places to have a nice cappucino or some yummy seafood out on the pier.</p>

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<p>We’ve only stayed once at Solvang, but it was a cute little town, and it’s not far from Santa Barbara (and is on the way to L.A.).</p>

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<p>I’m sure I could mention some more places but I imagine others will also have some recommendations for you! :)</p>

<p>p.s. Washdad, if she’s going to pretend to be Hoffman, then she’ll have to go all out and rent an Alfa! A Miata? Pfft.</p>

<p>so after Seattle you’re flying to San Fran? I was going to suggest a nice senic drive down the Oregon coast or even some time in oregon wine country. WA is great, we live here. Kids school in west central Ore and it’s beautiful. </p>

<p>If you’re flying into frisco I’d wait until departing to rent a car. San Diego is my second favorite place to be. It sounds like you’re taking a big bite on this trip. Good luck.</p>

<p>We are also going to California this summer - first time for me since I was 17, and first time for my H and D ever. We are flying into LAX, renting a car, and staying in the Santa Barbara area (Carpinteria - Best Western. Best value we could find.) We don’t have a big itinerary planned yet. We will be attending various events at Music Academy of the West (where S is performing). If you find yourself in the Santa Barbara area, and like classical music, these programs are apparently huge draws, especially the picnic concerts.
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Santa Barbara itself looks like a beautiful place. To piggy back on this thread, if anybody has any specific suggestions for us, please post - The OP might like it too.</p>

<p>We are hoping to drive to LA on Sunday (the only day my S has off) to visit relatives. Otherwise, we are looking for more local things to do - maybe wine country tours or beach stuff. We will have a rental car. When I was in LA at age 17, I did Disney and Knott’s Berry Farm - are either of those still worth it?</p>

<p>hearst castle…go…u will personally love it…funny enough theres a chance i will be going this summer…its very art muesum history museum theres actually a movie theatre…the grounds r gorgeous…if u like marbled archetecture go!!!</p>

<p>this is my way of describing it…my parents tend to take me to places they would enjoy instead of places i would…soo yeah i actually might b able to help.</p>

<p>Also any thrift shop lovers?? theres like 3 good ones in OJAI, CA right next to eachother i should know my program director dragged me there…</p>

<p>If you’re stopping in Laguna Beach in the summer, check out the Pageant of the Masters, it is a long time event where they re-enact master works of art live- sounds weird, but it is really quite cool.
I am not sure how difficult it is to get tickets these days, but here is the website:</p>

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<p>I agree w/lesmiz, you’ve gotta do Hearst Castle</p>

<p>HWY 152, San Marcos Pass takes you above Santa Barbara and a bit inland to the Santa Inez Valley and the local wine country. If you don’t have time to see Napa and Sonoma, you can turn off Hwy 101 coming south from San Luis Obispo near Solvang and go to the wine country. It is beautiful, rolling hills with Oaks and great little winerys. Solvang is a bit touristy, but cute.</p>

<p>See at least one Mission. My favorites are Carmel and Santa Barbara. Both can be seen if you are driving the coastal route. I love Carmel. I can’t remember the name, but the main street in town has great cinnamon rolls. Great galleries and shops. </p>

<p>Make sure when you drive south in California, that you take Hwy 1 thru the scenic areas, (Big Sur, etc.) but flip over to 101 for the quick route past places you don’t plan to stop. Otherwise, it will take you forever. Hwy 1 goes thru many small towns but takes you out of the way and is quite slow. For example, the stretch between San Luis Obispo and Santa Barbara…use 101. Take San Marcos Pass (152) across from Buellton to Santa Barbara and enjoy the wine country.</p>

<p>Disneyland is overrun in the summer. Unless you absolutely can’t resist, I would avoid the themeparks. </p>

<p>If you cannot can’t tix for Pageant of the Masters (definitely try!!!) the Sawdust Festival and Laguna Arts fair goes on all summer in the same area.</p>

<p>In San Diego, go to Old Town, especially to eat. This is my favorite part. It is quaint and more historic. You can stay at the Best Western in Old Town, up on th hill side. Less expensive and beautiful views. It is about 10 minutes to drive to other parts of the city from there. The Gas Lamp District and the waterfront are fun places to stroll in the evening. </p>

<p>A possible over night place that is central to lot of sites is Seal Beach. You can stay at the Ayers Hotel right off the hwy. Seal Beach is a perfect little small town if you want a great beach day. Close by; Long Beach with the Queen Mary and the LB aquarium/Pike area; Disneyland and Knotts are within 15 minutes; Newport Beach and Laguna are 30-45 minutes south</p>

<p>Definitely take Highway 1 south from Monterrey. It’s a gorgeous drive. You can see Hearst Castle towards the end of the day…Tour #2 is best, imo, but Tour #1 provides the context for it (reservations recommended)…spending the night (or two) in Cambria, one of my most favorite places in California. (Dinner recs: The Sow’s Ear, The Black Cat, or drive across the foothills to Templeton and go to McPhee’s Grill. Lunch: The Tea Cozy)</p>

<p>Continuing south, Solvang is very kitschy but a lot of folks like it and on the four-mile or so road from 101 to the town you pass by an ostrich farm(!). If you go to the last major N/S street in Solvang and turn right, on the left is a big parking lot behind which is the Santa Ynez mission, which you’d miss completely unless you knew it was there or spotted a very small sign. </p>

<p>Less than half a mile from 101 on the way to Solvang is The Hitching Post, a restaurant featured in the movie “Sideways” and it’s outstanding for steaks, wine, etc. The mushrooms marinated in cabernet are my favorite side dish.</p>

<p>For missions, I definitely like the Santa Barbara though the San Buenaventura is interesting in a low-key kind of way. Lunch in Santa Barbara: the Altamirano, 422 N. Milpas. They have a couple of very good, very unusual kinds of tacos, one with a spinach/cheese filling, the other I forget its name but is yummy.</p>

<p>Note: traffic from Santa Barbara south to Ventura can seem disproportionately “sticky” or stop-and-go…patience is advised and it’s one area that I try to avoid, not always successful, on a late Sunday afternoon.</p>

<p>If you have time when in LA, going to the Getty Villa, a recreation of a Roman Villa from Pompeii and which houses its antiquities collection, is a treat. Again, reservations recommended. </p>

<p>Coming down to my neck of the woods, Santa Monica, the Santa Monica pier with its Ferris wheel and roller coaster are common attractions and you can do worse than strolling down the three-block pedestrian mall of the Third Street Promenade, complete with topiary dinosaur fountains, street performers, and tourists gawking at the locals and vice versa. (You can always tell the Midwesterners out for the Rose Bowl because the men are wearing Bermuda shorts in cool overcast weather.)</p>

<p>In Long Beach, the Queen Mary is worth seeing, imo…too bad they moved the Spruce Goose to Oregon. If you have the time/mood/$$$ for an upscale dinner, Sir Winston’s at the stern of the ship does it very very nicely.</p>

<p>Down Orange County way, Laguna Beach & Laguna Niguel are definitely picturesque. Someone on CC was good enough to point me at The Five Crowns restaurant in Laguna Niguel and I heartily endorse it.</p>

<p>I’ve never been to the Wild Animal Park in northern San Diego County but I’ve heard lots of good things. Ditto for Shakespeare and other performing arts in Balboa Park in San Diego, where the Old Town is fun to kick around.</p>

<p>If you’re inclined at all towards museums, I’d have some additional recs for LA if you’re interested. Disneyland does tend to be overrun; if you were going to do a theme parkish kind of thing, I’d actually recommend the Universal tour at Universal City…gives some idea of some of the technology and other aspects of making movies and there are some “volunteers from the audience” things that can be fun.</p>

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<p>Ah…just remembered. We did this trip in reverse, LA to Seattle a few years back, and the Oregon Shakespeare Festival in Ashland was one of the “keepers” from that trip. All of us want to get back there. Definitely reserve tickets in advance.</p>

<p>Remember that in July San Fran can be 50 - 90 degrees, depending on the fog. I love Sausalito and recommend taking a ferry from Fisherman’s Wharf, or combining a drive there with Muir Wood’s. Union Square for shopping. Chinatown. Ferry to Alcatraz, which also requires advance tickets online. </p>

<p>In Pasadena DO NOT miss Huntington’s Garden, Museum and Teahouse/Restaurant. A must see.</p>

<p>Hearst Museum requires reservations ahead which you can make online.</p>

<p>I like La Jolla better than San Diego, though both are beautiful. That is quite a trek. Someone recommended avoiding highway 1. I would take Highway One the whole way. It is more time consuming, though unbelievably beautiful. Watch out for rock slides.</p>

<p>I find the public bathrooms in California to be poorly maintained, compared to neighboring states.</p>

<p>You are talking about 3 trips. You could spend the time in WA, N CA or S CA, but to do the whole west coast is like trying to go from Maine to Florida- seeing Boston, New York and Washington, DC all in the same trip (plus all the other cities in between). Don’t do it. Instead pick one locale. We only spent a week in Seattle, need to go back. Saw wineries, whalewatch cruise, Olympic rainforest, Mt St Helens, Mt Rainier, the Seattle sights, never made it to Vancouver. The San Francisco trip included Berkeley, parks, Stanford campus… (BTW, we stayed in Berkeley, on the water, rented a car but took the BART to SF). San Diego was day trips from Orange county, so much to do in that part of that state. If it’s Tuesday it must be Belgium…</p>

<p>On the Monterey Penninsula (Carmel, Pacific Grove and Monterey) try to stay at Asilomar Conference grounds in Pacific Grove. Look it up on line, they rent to individuals as well as conferences, given availability. No TV, but historic lodges, including a main lodge with pool tables and games, lovely breakfast, in the pines across the street from a wonderful beach. The scenery is similar to Carmel, but much quieter, and parking is not an issue. The conference grounds rents bikes, and if you don’t mind hills, can bike to Carmel, saving the 17 mile drive fee, or if you want flat, around the ocean drive to the aquarium.</p>

<p>If you can make the time, I second the Huntington Gardens/Museum/tea room (reservations for the last recommended but several times I’ve been successful in nudging my way in when some didn’t show up). But this is an all day affair in and of itself. Or at least a noon to four event, plus transport.</p>

<p>Things to do in SB
Pick up a picnic lunch. Go up to the rose garden next to the Santa Barbara Mission. Eat and enjoy the sunshine and flowers. Cross the street and tour the Mission.
Binx- I have known numerous people who end up at the Best Western in Carp.20 minutes to SB with normal traffic, probably less time to get to the Music Academy. You are right it is a good value and a decent property. Linden Ave in Carp is nice for window shopping. The beach in Carp is also nice.
Also a cute small one street town is Summerland in between Carp and Montecito.
Walks in SB- Park at Harbor and walk up the hill to the north to Shoreline Park. Nice pleasant walk with great ocean views and park benches. You can also walk the opposite direction from the harbor down towards Sterns wharf and East Beach. East Beach is the place for noontime beach volleyball. You can eat lunch at a picnic bench and watch.
Wilcox property (formal name Douglas Family preserve)- nice walk up to the bluffs above the ocean. It is next to Henry’s beach (official name Arroyo Burro Beach). There is a dining place on the sand. I don’t care for the food but others like it for the view.
Dining- A extremely popular and happening place. Brophy Bros in the Harbor(not the pier). Seafood casual.
Fresco at the Beach- In the Santa Barbara Inn- Reasonable prices with a great menu- This location is fairly new but I go to the uptown location and it is a gret value with excellent food.
Whale watching
Rent kayaks
Walk up State St.
The Santa Barbara zoo is a great small easy walkable zoo.
My newest favorite mexican food is Los Arroyos on Figueroa St (not the Montecito location). Great food and they make your chips to order so they are hot. Great Salsa bar. Casual.
We also have decent indian food.
We also have a small art museum. Nothing in SB is that large.
Santa Ynez is nice for wine tasting and country drives through vineyards and horse farms and even a few llama farms. I would skip Solvang, but that is a personal opinion.</p>