Helping kids and families shed their Ivy-worship

I know several Ivy grads who are as lost as anyone about what to do with their lives, working unsatisfactory jobs in the interim. I would also say that all the prestige-chasing and focus on future admissions poisons the high school experience, resulting, in some cases, in the mental health challenges referenced above.

I would emphasize with parents and kids alike that the point is the experience on a campus, not getting in. I have actually read that some Harvard students get depressed in freshman year because their lives have been so geared to “getting in” that they never learned to live in the present. Of course, some solve that by going on to the next prestige-driven goal for the future.

I was going to recommend the book "Excellent Sheep ". It describes a version of what @compmom describes (written by a Yale prof.) It could be helpful for those who see college acceptances as a “prize” to focus more on the experience - both of being in high school and of the one they want for the next 4 years.

I don’t think you can easily cure individuals of their Ivy-obsession if their communities are obsessed. It’s really tough for some people to see the expression on their friends’ or family members’ faces when they hear that one/one’s allegedly bright child is attending an “unimpressive school.” My older kids went to top schools because they could and those were the places that offered the experience they wanted. My youngest is excellent in her own way, but not as strong of a student. She will be attending a good LAC that, hopefully, is just right for her needs. (If it matters for context, she turned down athletic recruitment from two higher ranked colleges because their environment didn’t feel appropriate for D.)

So, while WE are satisfied with her college decision, that doesn’t mean it’s easy to endure the “blah” or dismayed response we get when we say what college she’s attending. If you live in a community that knows one college from the next, I can understand why you’d want to spare your children and yourself those reactions if you can. They don’t endure a life time, but they do last about 5 years per kid. That can feel very long. College admissions is a public outside assessment of a student’s achievement that, while flawed, is still harder to game than results in the local sphere. Locally, mom being PTA President, dad being head of the town’s soccer club, or the child being physically attractive etc. can garner some undeserved favor for kids. People instinctively know that, so college can take on some meaning it shouldn’t, e.g. as a measuring stick of successful parenting and of the child’s accomplishments over 18 years. That’s why people care. It feels to them like a report card that everyone sees. You can tell them they shouldn’t care what others think all you want to, but your admonition won’t change the social reality of the world they live in every day.

@Anonymous7676

What you said


“One other way to get these parents to think about all of this differently is to ask them what they think becomes of the highly talented students who do NOT get accepted to the top 5-10 colleges?? Do they really think these students go away quietly into the night? No, of course, not! They’ve all attended somewhere else and have brought their incredible talents to that other place!”

EXACTLY this. Same goes for all those PhDs scrambling for hard-to-find academic positions. They’ve got to land somewhere