<p>I’m wondering what’s more likely to occur in law school admissions? Someone with a 3.0ish GPA but an LSAT score at 170 or higher, or someone with a 3.7-3.8 GPA with a low LSAT score?</p>
<p>Please don’t tell me High GPA, High LSAT. I know. Shut up.</p>
<p>Depends. 3.4/180 probably might have an equal chance as 3.8/150.</p>
<p>Of course, at top10, you’re probably not getting in anyways.</p>
<p>It varies. At Berkeley a 166, 4.0 is better than a 180 2.9. At Northwestern, a 171, 2.9 is better than a 166 4.0. You’ll be hard-pressed to get into Stanford or Yale with less than a 3.8.</p>
<p>Still, it’s pretty safe to say that in general LSAT is weighted more heavily and certainly you can overcome a subpar GPA much more easily than a subpar GPA. </p>
<p>A 180, 3.4 will be in at a TOP 4 school, while a 150 3.8 would be hard-pressed to get into a TIER 4 school…</p>
<p>What school and what major? Course 2 at MIT vs. sociology at Quinnipiac? A quant major at a tough school with a high LSAT will do a lot better than a perfect GPA from a grade inflated school, easy major with a mediocre LSAT.</p>
<p>@ futurenyustudent:</p>
<p>You must be kidding. A 3.4/180 will, like cherokeejew alluded to, get you into most t14 schools. A 150/3.8 will put you in the running for AT BEST third tier schools. Don’t really know where you got this idea from.</p>
<p>3.4/180 is probably equal to 3.85/165</p>
<p>^Even that’s a big stretch imo. Go to lawschoolnumbers.com, where you can search all schools and users by LSAT/GPA score. A 3.4/180 will get you in everywhere but YHS. A 3.85/165 will result in rejections from most t14. Guys, the LSAT is weighed much heavier than GPA, and law school admissions reflect this.</p>
<p>FNS’s estimate above is obviously ridiculous. Choco’s seemed right to me but MW’s assessment caused me to go and play with the numbers a little. MW seems right.</p>
<p>Playing around with [url=<a href=“http://www.chiashu.com/lsat.html]Chiashu:[/url”>http://www.chiashu.com/lsat.html]Chiashu:[/url</a>]
3.4/180 seems approximately equal to – I kid you not – 3.8/176.</p>
<p>Well, Chiashu is not omniscient, and it certainly fails here (and with splits in general).</p>
<p>176, 3.8 will get you into everything outside of HYS for sure, give 3/4 at Harvard and put you in the running at Stanford, Yale.</p>
<p>180, 3.4 will give you 0 chance at Stanford or Yale, near 0 at Harvard, good chance but not shoe-in at NYU and fairly poor chances at Chicago, Columbia and Boalt. </p>
<p>While such a split can never be truly equivalent to a non-splitter (due to GPA fiends like Berkeley), I’d say it’s most similar to a 170, 3.8. That will miss HYS, have a good chance at NYU, mediocre chance at Chicago and poor chance at Columbia.</p>
<p>3.4/180 will get you in everywhere except for HYS and likely Boalt. A 3.4/180 will be a poor chance at Columbia’s Hamilton, it will still be a near auto-admit to Columbia. Take a look at [LawSchoolNumbers.com</a> | LawSchoolNumbers.com](<a href=“http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com%5DLawSchoolNumbers.com”>http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com) Except for Boalt and Stanford, every school values the LSAT more than GPA. For Y unfortunately, a high LSAT and high GPA are needed :(</p>
<p>What’s Columbia Hamilton?</p>
<p>The evidence, small though it is, does not show that it is an auto-admit for Columbia though. Last year was 0/2 [Columbia</a> University | LawSchoolNumbers.com](<a href=“http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/search_schools.php?action=search&school_code=2163&lsat1=178&lsat2=&fee_waiver=0&status=0&gpa_lsdas1=&gpa_lsdas2=3.5&attending=0&cycle=4&gpa_degree1=&gpa_degree2=&withdrawn=0&program=1&index1=&index2=&state=0&application_type=0&scholarship1=&scholarship2=&sex=0&multiple_lsat=0&urm=0&x=44&y=4&international=0]Columbia”>http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/search_schools.php?action=search&school_code=2163&lsat1=178&lsat2=&fee_waiver=0&status=0&gpa_lsdas1=&gpa_lsdas2=3.5&attending=0&cycle=4&gpa_degree1=&gpa_degree2=&withdrawn=0&program=1&index1=&index2=&state=0&application_type=0&scholarship1=&scholarship2=&sex=0&multiple_lsat=0&urm=0&x=44&y=4&international=0)</p>
<p>178, 3.48 and 180, 3.47 both got useless waitlists.</p>
<p>The year before, it was 2/4 for similar numbers: [Columbia</a> University | LawSchoolNumbers.com](<a href=“http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/search_schools.php?action=search&school_code=2163&lsat1=178&lsat2=&fee_waiver=0&status=0&gpa_lsdas1=&gpa_lsdas2=3.5&attending=0&cycle=3&gpa_degree1=&gpa_degree2=&withdrawn=0&program=1&index1=&index2=&state=0&application_type=0&scholarship1=&scholarship2=&sex=0&multiple_lsat=0&urm=1&x=17&y=9&international=0]Columbia”>http://www.lawschoolnumbers.com/search_schools.php?action=search&school_code=2163&lsat1=178&lsat2=&fee_waiver=0&status=0&gpa_lsdas1=&gpa_lsdas2=3.5&attending=0&cycle=3&gpa_degree1=&gpa_degree2=&withdrawn=0&program=1&index1=&index2=&state=0&application_type=0&scholarship1=&scholarship2=&sex=0&multiple_lsat=0&urm=1&x=17&y=9&international=0)</p>
<p>It’s getting harder every year, though.</p>
<p>a 3.4/180 will get you into everywhere but yhs and i’d guess you’d get into h.</p>
<p>I wish, but 180 3.4 has essentially no chance at Harvard.</p>
<p>Is columbia law really called hamilton?</p>
<p>I passed by the Cardozo school building on my way back from the movies on friday…just something random I wanted to share…I didn’t know they were on 5th ave.</p>
<p>No. The Hamilton is the name of a full-tuition scholarship that CLS offers.</p>
<p>“I wish, but 180 3.4 has essentially no chance at Harvard.”</p>
<p>A 3.4/180 has an outside shot of Harvard Law if the 3.4 is from HYP, a decent shot if its a legacy, a great shot if its a URM and virtually no shot otherwise.</p>
<p>my private tutor from testmasters got a 180 and a 3.4/3.5 with close to no ec’s and got into almost every school other than HYS. he’s going to Columbia</p>
<p>This thread is really discouraging. So really, what does it take to get into Stanford? 3.8+ GPA and 180 LSAT?</p>