High School Class of 2017

Oh, goodness.

I have an older sister who is a senior this year. She’s quite artsy-- she wants to double major in Acting and Women’s Studies-- but she’s an intellectual sort of a person as well, and she radiates interesting-ness. She auditioned for acting at four schools and applied to four or five others. She got into her two safeties with massive merit money (ie enough for zero debt for the out of state public and quite a bit of money in her pocket for the in state school), but over the past week has just gotten a whole slew of rejections (plus a waitlist at Northwestern?! No one gets rejected from Boston University and waitlisted at Northwestern. But she did. Ah, the joys of college admissions with a twist of hyper-competitive auditions!) The Rejection of the Day today was Barnard, and it struck an emotional cord that the others haven’t because she seems to embody the nature of the school. NYU is coming up soon, but it was described at dinner as “the final lash” and everyone winced because it was true; it’s the best school for acting in the US and is really difficult to get into even without factoring in the art bit. It’s a hard month over here in the pseudoprimal household.

(Okay I’m having a hard time stopping because because and so I’m just going to ramble for a bit about the glorious human being who is my sister…sorry, you all!)

My sister is so so so cool. She has extracurriculars like you’d never believe-- she sings opera and so not only has voice but also an intense four-year program for singing; she acts, not just at school or with acting lessons, but also in an even more intense two-year program and many productions outside of even that; she’s been in multiple bands and she plays three instruments and writes wonderful songs; she’s the editor of her school newspaper and she recently talked the administration into publishing a handful of articles about controversial subjects, a big step for her conservative Catholic school; she teaches Sunday School at church every week and absolutely adores the little kids and the stories she brings back. She’s had a job and done cool summer programs in voice and acting.

And then people start talking to her, and they’re just like, wow. She’s incredibly socially adept-- kind, enthusiastic, mature, and able to strike up a conversation with absolutely anyone and carry it all the way through. Her strong opinions and moral axioms are ingrained into the fabric of her life, and even after a short discussion, anyone can tell that she has a deep understanding of the world. She’s firey and resilient and spunky, but also thoughtful and a good listener.

I remember her coming back from her NYU audition. She had had an interview with one of the people from there at Unifieds, and they talked about everything from Shakespeare to physics, and the guy told her that he wished he could talk to her for hours.

And, unlike a lot of art kids, she has solid academics-- stellar grades, a 33 ACT, and some rigor (a lot of honors classes but only three-ish APs). Her essays were beautifully written and she had two or three English teachers (along with both of out parents) read every essay, every answer to every supplemental question. She was able to spend a heck of a lot of time on every application because she did them in October even though she applied RD.

As you might have been able to tell, she’s a compelling person.

It’s really hard to see her get rejected.

(Though it was nice to see the waitlist at Northwestern! We all thought Northwestern was her reachiest of reaches, so the waitlist was a nice sign that she was applying to the right sorts of schools, at least.)

She’ll probably end up at the OOS safety, which-- we’ll face it-- she’d likely have ended up at even with acceptances from other places, just because of the cost, but it’s different to be forced into a school because you didn’t get in anywhere than to choose it because it’s a better choice. She’ll be happy there, I hope; they have a great acting program and will allow her to double major, too. She liked the vibe when she visited and knows a few kids there who really like it, too. It will all be okay in the end, I’m pretty sure.

But gosh does it hurt right now.

Wow…that was more of a tome than I had intended!

If rejections are this hard for me when it’s not even me being rejected, it’s going to be a tough senior year for me, lol.

@pseudoprimal‌ I’m sure your sister will do well wherever she goes. My cousin wants to go to Northwestern, actually–I wonder if she got in, if decisions are already out. I do know she was waitlisted at UCLA (which I believe was her top UC) after being accepted into the honors programs of all of the other ones whose decisions she’s heard back from. I really hope she got in–she’s a stellar student and works really hard (last summer, she even went to SIMR at Stanford; she’s an ASB officer and was class officer last year as well as club officer for several clubs; homecoming queen; only one B+ freshman year Honors English with one of the hardest teachers for the subject; challenging schedule). I need to ask her next time I go to her house or run into her at school.

I’m pretty sure I’m going to be a wreck during college admissions season senior year; I don’t handle rejection very well as a general thing. Hell, I’m still bitter over my journalism rejection from last year (I almost didn’t apply this year).

(eyyy my sister got into NYU!)

@pseudoprimal Congrats to her! Does that mean she will be attending there in the fall?

I see everyone’s extracurriculars and such, and then I feel like mine pale in comparison. It makes me sad.

Here’s my list of extracurriculars:

I have my first dance competition of the season this weekend!! I’m pretty excited but also a bit nervous. I mean, I’ve been competing for a few years now, but I always get a little nervous. But yeah, dance competitions are crazy fun but really exhausting!!!

@pseudoprimal Congratulations to your sister!

@pseudoprimal congrats to your sister!

I need some help: my parents want me to take SAT prep over the summer–and the kind they’re thinking of is overpriced, five days a week for six weeks. I don’t have time for that; I’ve already filled out summer program applications that I spent a hell of a lot of time on. And it’s my dad (who had previously been a proponent of my desire to self-study) who’s pushing this on me now; I won’t have time to do anything useful over the summer if I do SAT prep. Yes, many of my friends are doing it; but I’m pretty sure I’m self-motivated enough to study on my own (and I did pretty well on the PSAT without studying; if I study, I’m pretty sure I can raise the equivalent SAT score around 200 points to my goal). How do I convince them to actually let me do something useful (volunteering/summer programs) with my summer?

I’m just wondering… who here has knowledge about valedictorian/class rank/GPA?

@topaz1116‌ You should definitely let them know that the majority of students succeed on the SAT without a class. A class is some fancy situation that doesn’t help anybody in reality. Your community service and summer programs would be so much better for your time. You could promise you will also spend your spare time reviewing for the SAT by YOURSELF.

@SallyStephens all points I’ve tried to make; however, they seem to be of the mentality that because everyone else is doing it, I should do it too. However, I’ve managed to convince them that I can prep for the SAT on my own if I get into one of the two commuter programs and if I take classes for AP Physics and AP Chem on my own. If I only get into the residential one, however, I’m not sure how it’s going to work, since you’re not allowed to go home for the weekends (and originally, I had planned to do community service full time right after I got back from the residential program). I hope I can convince them that it’s not needed…

I hope you can too! Let me know how it goes and if I can give more tips.

@SallyStephens what’s up with valedictorian/class rank/GPA? I know you’ve brought up each of those things before and (I think) have gotten answers and I’m curious what is new. :slight_smile:

Hahah lol I know I bring it up so much… it’s just a huge part of my life at this point… I was just gonna say I realized that by the end of senior year I will break our school’s GPA record… my competitor’s older brother actually set the record I will break (if I get all A’s). That just got me so freaked out because I was like so what if I break the record but still don’t get Val? This family is like crazy “Scandalous” and they are the type of family that bribed a science fair judge to send their very under-capable son to states, when HE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE DISQUALIFIED.

You can imagine why I am very insecure about the whole thing… I’m totally nervous that at the last minute they’ll bribe the school or do some crazy cheating thing like take some random AP or weighted class no one has ever heard of. He is a serial liar and to make me nervous, he likes to walk around and tell all my friends he’s taking 12 AP classes next year. Okay people-- maximum class schedule is 7 and we don’t have 12 AP’s left for him to take so Idk what he’s talking about…

I know he lies about stuff and is psycho but I’m still very worried… I think you guys would be too, right, if you were faced with someone like this? The guidance department said they are all rooting for me and believe I can do it, but they all know what the family is capable of doing. Like I’m thinking to myself… there’s no way the guy’s dad would let me win… he would probably run into the school and demand a recount and beg them or something, or just come after me…

ALL THESE THOUGHTS RUNNING THROUGH MY HEAD AT 10 AT NIGHT

@SallyStephens‌ Why do you care so much? You come off somewhat desperate and frankly pathetic with such an obsession. “These violet delights have violent ends” - Friar Lawrence

@ZucchiniSoup‌ I mean she’s devoting an incredible amount of time and hard work in her goal while having to deal with a jerk who consistently tries to put other people down and might have a chance of wrongfully getting in the way of said goal. I would probably feel the same way if I invested so much effort into something

@SallyStephens‌ If you are talking about which is more important (GPA/valedictorian/class rank) for college admissions, it won’t guarantee acceptances to colleges. Tier 1 colleges are holistic - they look at the entire person. I have seen valedictorians (cousins, close friends, etc.) not get accepted to UCLA, but I have seen top 5% kids with “beast” extracurricular activities and excellent recommendations get accepted to UCLA and UCB.

Like I have told you, that “immature kid” is just messing with you. Pay no attention to him. It is annoying and I have been there, but it is a bitter taste of life. Good luck!