History of Yale History: Students who got into Yale History grad program

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<p>By Year and subfield (majority is in PhD programs)</p>

<p>Student Name (College, previous grad school)</p>

<p>No bashing or ■■■■■■■■ of a particular school</p>

<p>Fall 2006
M.A.:
Joshua Bradley (US Military Academy)</p>

<p>EastAsia:
Elizabeth Duggan (University of St. Andrew, Scotland),
Joyman Lee (Cambridge)</p>

<p>SoutheastAsia:
Kevin Fogg (Duke)</p>

<p>Ancient:
Mark Anderson (UCLA)
Medieval: Azelina Jaboulet-Vercherre (Ecole du Louvre),
Marita von Weissenberg (Abo Akademi University, Finland)</p>

<p>EarlyModern Europe:
Sarah Kinkel (Scripps College),
Leslie Theibert (Johns Hopkins University)</p>

<p>Modern Europe:
Philipp Nielsen (London School of Economics),
Jennifer Wellington (Australian National University)</p>

<p>UnitedStates:
Zane Curtis-Olsen (Duke),
Alejandro Delgado (Colgate),
Brian Distelberg (Harvard),
Joseph Fronczak (University of Wisconsin, Madison),
Katherine Mooney (Amherst),
Anne Ruderman (Princeton),
Serena Sprungl (Western Washington),
Miriam Willard (Reed College),
Joseph Yanielli (Wesleyan)
Latin America:
Andrew Konove (Haverford),
Natasha Silber (Yale),
Lisa Ubelaker (Swarthmore)
Global:
Amanda Behm (Dartmouth),
Victor McFarland (Stanford)</p>

<p>Fall 2007
M.A.:
Susan Jakes (Yale, Oxford),
Filip Oosterlink <a href=“Catholic%20University%20of%20Louvain”>HSHM</a>,
Ryan Shaw (U.S. Military Academy)</p>

<p>Early Modern Europe:
Elizabeth A. Herman (Tufts),
Lucy Kaufman (Yale, Oxford),
Christine McEvilly (MIT)
Global:
ShawnaKim Lowey-Ball (Cornell)</p>

<p>HSHM:
Sakena Abedin (Harvard, Washington University School of Medicine),
Justin Barr (Washington University),
Jessica Cardenas-Navia (Yale),
Deborah Doroshow (Harvard-Radcliffe),
Richard Sosa (Williams)</p>

<p>Latin America:
Oriana D. Bleecher (Stanford),
Fredy Gonzalez (UC Berkeley),
Marian E. Schlotterbeck (Oberlin, Universidad de Concepcion),
Natasha Silber (Yale)</p>

<p>Medieval:
Gregory Roberts (Vanderbilt)
Modern Europe:
James D. Herbst (Oxford),
Diana Lemberg (Princeton),
Kimberly Lowe (Pepperdine),
Gene M. Tempest (UC Berkeley)</p>

<p>UnitedStates:
Justin A. duRivage (Cambridge),
Allison M. Gorsuch (University of Michigan),
Todd E. Holmes (UC Sacramento),
Anastasia Jones (Yale, Cambridge),
Malcolm I. McLean (Pomona),
Sara M. Woldin (Barnard)</p>

<p>Fall 2008
M.A.:
Lesley MacGregor (Smith),
Emily Pressman (Yale)</p>

<p>Africa:
Andrew Offenburger (Buena Vista, Yale)
Early Modern Europe:
Jonathan Gebhardt (Princeton),
Mordechai Levy-Eichel (Chicago),
Matthew Lockwood (Boston College),
Max Scholz (Yale), Nazanin Sullivan (Texas)
EastAsia:
Wonhee Cho (Seoul National University),
Susan Jakes (Yale),
Taisu Zhang (Yale, Yale Law)
Global:
Sulmaan Khan (Yale)</p>

<p>HSHM:
Mary Brazelton (Harvard),
Joy Rankin (Dartmouth College, Duke University),
Thomas Reznick (Colby College),
Robin Scheffler (Chicago)
Jewish:
Nathaniel Kurz (Stanford)
Latin America:
Ingrid Castaneda (UCLA),
Jennifer Lambe (Brown)</p>

<p>Medieval:
Kristina Helmreich (Cornell), Lauren Mancia (Columbia, Toronto)
MiddleEast:
Assef Ashraf (NYU)
Modern Europe:
Justin Collings (Brigham Young, Yale Law),
Mattie Fitch (Wellesley),
Antoine Lentacker (Ecole Normale Superieure),
David Petruccelli (Brown)</p>

<p>RenaissanceStudies/ History: </p>

<p>Justine Walden (UC Berkeley, UPenn).
Does this one count as a Berkeley student or a Penn student? </p>

<p>United States:
Christopher Bonner (Howard),
Lisa Furchtgott (Chicago),
Ryan Hall (Oklahoma),
Andrew Horowitz (Yale),
Emily Johnson (Alberta),
Bianca Mercado (Texas Tech, North Texas),
David Minto (Cambridge, Birkbeck),
Joy Mooberry (Vassar, Wisconsin Law, Oxford Law),
Caitlin Verboon (William and Mary)</p>

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<p>“Does this one count as a Berkeley student or a Penn student?”</p>

<p>As this is your thread, is this question even necessary? We all know the answer…</p>

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<p>Not ■■■■■■■■ a particular school? What a crock of *****<strong><em>. We all know your MO and I think I speak for most people when I say shut the *</em></strong> up already and get a life. This has gotten way beyond pathetic. Do you have nothing else to do with your time but go through every list of PhD students at top 15 schools and find the few that don’t have any Penn students? Well, that was a rhetorical question, because obviously not. I’ve never seen a case of ■■■■■■■■ like this before…you might want to get it checked out. You haven’t noticed any signs of developing pink or orange hair, have you?</p>

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<p>Cool story, Bro!</p>

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<p>yay chicago is represented! is yale history PhD program the best graduate history school?</p>

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<p>There is no such school.</p>

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<p>Datasource:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.yale.edu/history/documents/HistoryNewsletter07F.pdf[/url]”>http://www.yale.edu/history/documents/HistoryNewsletter07F.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p><a href=“http://www.yale.edu/history/documents/History08F.pdf[/url]”>http://www.yale.edu/history/documents/History08F.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>I have randomly picked Yale because:</p>

<p>NRC Rankings in History
Rank University Score out of 5
1 Yale 4.89
2 Cal Berkeley 4.79
3 Princeton 4.75
4 Harvard 4.71
5 Columbia 4.63
6 UCLA 4.59
7 Stanford 4.56
8 Chicago 4.49
9 Johns Hopkins 4.42
10 Wisconsin 4.37</p>

<p>and because you like this US News ranking:</p>

<ol>
<li>Yale</li>
<li>Princeton</li>
<li>Stanford</li>
<li>Berkeley</li>
<li>Harvard</li>
</ol>

<p>It seems to be a big gap between #1 Yale and #2 Berkeley according to NRC. Such difference just disappeared in US NEWS.</p>

<p>I just copied and pasted the information. I don’t know why on Yale Newsletter, UC Sacramento is on the list. Please ask Yale to clarify.</p>

<p>CAPA: Unless you behave, I’ll show more statistics. The best way for you to do is to cool down and relax. </p>

<p>The truth will prevail.</p>

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<p>Unless CAPA behaves?? Y7ongjun everyone on this board knows you’re a joke. Please… enter reality and get over petty college rejections. Thankya!</p>

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<p>Would be interesting info if you could get the whole top 10, & more years.
Otherwise,difficult to make hgihly statistically significant predictions from such small sample size.</p>

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<p>There are many OUTSTANDING PhD programs in History (and all the various subsets) in colleges and universities around the United States. This thread is beyond bizarre.</p>

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<p>ghostbuster are the grads of all these outstanding programs equally likely to find tenure track teaching positions at well-regarded institutions after attaining their doctorate?</p>

<p>I haven’t read about history specifically, but my understanding, at least in other fields, is that this is not so easy to do these days, and where you attend for PhD can make a good deal of difference for future employment.</p>

<p>I refer you to this article:
[The</a> Splintered Mind: Underblog: Applying to Ph.D. Programs in Philosophy: Full Text](<a href=“http://schwitzsplintersunderblog.blogspot.com/2007/10/applying-to-phd-programs-in-philosophy.html]The”>The Splintered Mind: Underblog: Applying to Ph.D. Programs in Philosophy: Full Text)</p>

<p>I take it then, ghostbuster, you disagree with this? Or you happen to know this is not applicable in the case of History, because there is no issue in that field about getting suitable employment following your Phd, from any of the “many outstanding programs” you referenced?</p>

<p>Because otherwise I kind of thought attedning a top program made quite a bit of difference in that realm. but if you know something different, I defer.</p>

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<p>Um. I don’t get everybody else’s problem. It’s an interesting list, particularly so for a potential grad student. I see Yale grad programs seem to favor Yale undergraduates. But it’s nice to see UChicagoans and a Reedie!</p>

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lol. (10 char)</p>

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<p>As I’ve written elsewhere, and it remains true, while many, many people come from top programs, it’s just as important you’re working with top professors. In certain sub-fields different institutions will be just as attractive to potential employers in, and outside of, academia. If you work with a certain professor, it may not matter at all where your degree comes from. And finally, most of all, if you do great research throughout the writing of your thesis and can bring in any money, no one cares where you went.</p>

<p>For some additional insight into hiring, I found this article illuminating:
[Career</a> Advice: Inside a Search - Inside Higher Ed](<a href=“http://www.insidehighered.com/advice/2009/08/31/marinoff]Career”>http://www.insidehighered.com/advice/2009/08/31/marinoff)</p>

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<p>modestmelody, your point is not in total disagreement with the prof in the article I linked, but by emphasis it seems not to be in complete accord. Evidently in his his field it seems to be a matter of probabilities:</p>

<p>“But also, even from schools about which there is general consensus that they’re at the middle of the pack, people do occasionally land jobs at ranked Ph.D.-granting departments or at prestigious liberal arts schools.”</p>

<p>“My point is not that such things are impossible – or that it’s impossible to get into Princeton’s Ph.D. program from Cal State San Bernardino – but that such events are relatively rare.”</p>

<p>Implicit is that the people in the great subareas you mention tend often to be found in a top-rated grad program. And that’s why that department is top ranked. This will not cover everybody, true, but the point is not to be encyclopedic, the point is to get an idea of the extent that undergrad schools have specific representation over a decent number of top-rated programs in a field, rather than just any old programs in a field. Even if some top sub-areas are omitted from such survey because they are not housed in an overall top-rated program,and it is therefore not completely comprehensive, I believe a survey of some of the the top programs, overall, in a field might still be interesting for that limited purpose.</p>

<p>Personally I would rather not want to attend a PhD program where getting a tenure track postition afterwards was, in his words, “relatively rare”. This guys’ spin on this issue reads a little different than yours. Based on his spin on it, in his field at least, the distinction I am making seems relevant, though obviously not perfect.</p>

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<p>“Um. I don’t get everybody else’s problem. It’s an interesting list, particularly so for a potential grad student.”</p>

<p>Well, perhaps because the OP has evidenced himself an unrelenting ■■■■■? Even if this board meaningfully can serve to inform about graduate program admission matters – rather a bit of a stretch – that is clearly not what the OP has in mind.</p>

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I agree that top programs can be found in several places, and that having a good mentor can make the difference between TT placement and failure.</p>

<p>That said, the quality of the program can be of TREMENDOUS importance for placement. In my field, Chicago absolutely dominates all other programs. Its graduates make up between 50 and 75% of all tenure-track professors in the field (I counted once). Penn is a distant second, with NYU, Berkeley, Yale, Hopkins, and Brown bringing up the rear (roughly that order). Michigan and UCLA have excellent programs but have failed, as far as I know, to place a single student into a TT position.</p>

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<p>Even reading the comments on the article modestmelody linked, they seem to agree with the prof.</p>

<p>"This is probably a good argument for shutting down all humanities graduate programs, except for the ones at Ivy Leagues and other “good universities.” "</p>

<p>“The quality of one’s graduate university is a good measure of general academic quality and I think appropriate as a screening device.”</p>

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<p>[Finance</a> Department - The Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania](<a href=“http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/faculty/acad_depts/fncedept.cfm]Finance”>http://www.wharton.upenn.edu/faculty/acad_depts/fncedept.cfm)</p>

<p>Rank University #PhD</p>

<ol>
<li> Chicago 12</li>
<li> MIT 6</li>
<li> Harvard 4</li>
<li> Princeton 3</li>
<li> Minnesota 3
6.5 Berkeley 2
6.5 Duke 2</li>
</ol>

<p>Stanford
Oxford
Tel-Aviv
Rochester
Texas A&M
Wharton</p>

<p>What are my points (in case you have not got my points yet):</p>

<ol>
<li><p>Graduate schools, especially top ones, know what college produce top students. So placement into top PhD programs or professional schools is a good proxy (not perfect) for quality of college. </p></li>
<li><p>PhD placement is a good proxy (not perfect) for quality of PhD programs.</p></li>
<li><p>One needs to go to a top college in order to attend top grad or professional program.</p></li>
<li><p>Top colleges are not necessarily those ranked high by US News. US News ranking is considered by many top professors as a biased estimator for quality of education.</p></li>
<li><p>It is possible for a person from a not well-known college to attend a top program. But it is rare.</p></li>
<li><p>Similarly, it is possible for a PhD student from a not well recognized program to find a great academic job. Again, it is rare.</p></li>
<li><p>If you want to go to a top grad or professional program, it is better to attend one of the colleges as recognized by the experts, not by a bunch of journalists who know little about the market.</p></li>
</ol>

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<ol>
<li>If you want to go to a top grad or professional program, it is better to attend one of the colleges as recognized by the experts, not by a bunch of journalists who know little about the market.</li>
</ol>

<p>If you want to go to a top grad or professional program, it is better to attend the colleges that fits YOUR needs most, where you feel most comfortable, so that you will be in the best position to excel. No point in going to a school recognized as tops by “experts” if you hate it and will be miserable and your academic performance will thereby be hindered.</p>