HKU, KIT, TU Delft, Ecole Polytechnique, UvA, EUR, or KU Leuven

Which one do you think is better for STEM?

  • BASc Applied Artificial Intelligence Program at HKU.
  • Bachelor of Science at Ecole Polytechnique.
  • Double BSc Economics and Econometrics at EUR
  • Economics at UvA
  • Business Engineering at KU Leuven.
  • Mechanical Engineering at KIT
  • CSE at TU Delft

Affordability is extremely important for me. KU Leuven is the least expensive with a COA of 14,500 USD per year (my own calculation). The rest cost between 20k - 25k USD per year over the course of three years. Note that only HKU lasts 4 years among these schools.

I also have offers with scholarships from some US colleges:

  • Fordham CS (have to pay 28,900 USD)
  • Denison CS (have to pay 21,500 USD)
  • Oberlin CS (have to 22,242 USD - 4,500 loan)

It’s not even close

Bachelor of Science at Ecole Polytechnique.

Do you want to study CS, Economics, or Engineering ?

HKU has the downside of being in HongKong after the National Security Act was passed. Bad news if you’re pro democracy/pro freedom of speech/pro freedom of opinion.

Ecole Polytechnique will be heavy on pure math and lots of physics, with the possibility of adding CS or economics. Near Paris but in a not-so-college student friendly suburb.

What is EUR?

Ku Leiven, KIT and and Tu Delft will be technical. Excellent if you want to focus on that one field.

If you want CS and a more flexible approach, Denison is your best deal. Very reputable, connections with GAFAM (through alumni I’m guessing), student-centered, residential experience.

Ecole Polytechnique is in the same tier as HYPSM, Oxbridge, МФТИ, ŠœŠ“Š£ for STEM.
It’s just a different order of magnitude in terms of prestige.

It’s not the Grande Ecole (graduate) program but the international bachelor’s program, which is mostly designed for international students who can’t attend ā€œprepasā€ (but can pay and can handle math.) They benefit from the name but the program isn’t in the same league as the Grande Ecole program. It does emphasize abstraction, pure math, etc. like its big brother.

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Booh … I see … cause real Grand Ecole guys I work with are the real deal

lol good one, do you go to Ecole Polytech

I would go with Denison or UvA, it’s not worth to take out loans for Oberlin.

I don’t … but I’ve worked with a bunch of frenchies through the years and
Ɖcole normale supĆ©rieure and Ɖcole Polytechnique are absolutely world class …
I just didn’t know that the program OP was referring to was ā€œersatzā€

I don’t think they are trying to make money with the Bachelor of Science program because they give out very generous scholarships to most of the students.

The graduate students are so elite that they don’t pay anything - they’re paid to attend. So, even though international students don’t pay much, relatively speaking, they’re a good deal :slight_smile:

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I remember that the French Engineering school used to come to our school to recruit top students(yes, I remember that they did offer some sort of full ride to attract talented students)but tbh, most of the top students(like T10%) usually choose to go to either a top college in my country, or a top college in the US(like Harvard, MIT, and such).

For my understanding, UVA’s admission standard is the highest among the other schools you got accepted to, plus if you plan to have a business career in the future, UVA’s undergraduate business school has a really great program(like the one in Ivey business school) where you are only be able to enter at your Junior year(although you have to apply second time to this program, the acceptance rate is three times higher if you are an internal applicant).

But anyway, these are all great school, gl on making a decision.

I was thinking UvA meant ā€œUniversity of Amsterdamā€ not University of Virginia?
@kokfik can you shed light on this?

For what it’s worth, I’d pick Bsc Polytechnique if you want combined subjects+abstract math+a high profile campus+French life/Paris+ getting a work visa, Denison if you want CS+general education+residential college+ US culture+ 3 years OPT, Econ/Econometrics at EUR if you want Econ+ getting a work visa, CSE at TU DElft if you want Engineering+ work visa.

Yeah, I was talking about University of Virginia. Didn’t know they have the same initial lol…

I meant the University of Amsterdam :upside_down_face:

Thank you for your comments, honestly, they are very helpful. I’m wondering what you think about HKU, setting aside the political situation there? Should I completely eliminate that option? :eyes:

I wouldn’t go to HKU with the situation in Hong Kong. Too risky, even if you’re used to controlling what you say, what you post on social media, etc, you could get in trouble and get others in trouble. The rankings aren’t worth risking ending in a jail in a country where you don’t speak the language and where there’s no rule of law.

I agree

If cost is not a concern I will go with Denison, @Midwestmomofboys knows more, I would recommend you to ask her any question about the school. I believe her children went there? (sry if I’m wrong, I don’t have a great memory tbh.) and she seems to know a lot about the school.

BTW, has the OP said what he/she wants to do in life/what goals they have or if they are undecided?

I would think that would matter considering that the programs/schools being considered are so disparate.