Hollywood Producer Mistakenly Detained by Police

[Bay]

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What I still don’t understand is why the cop didn’t use the 20 minutes or whatever when he was chillin’ with the guy to ask HIM what they were doing.

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<p>I don’t have the patience to relisten to the tape, but I’m pretty sure the BF volunteered that “all we were doing was kissing” or something like that.</p>

[actingmt]

<p>Incidentally, they maintain that the photos are not photos of sex. So, he wasn’t going to admit it then. But, witnesses disagree in gruesome detail.</p>

[OHMomof2]

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I don’t think the link established that any cops were ignoring women being assaulted (there were just allegations), but it is clear if there had been any they would have been disciplined by the police department. My comment was based on a TV interview with a police officer who said they had been told to stay back from the crowd because it was an ethnic crowd.

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<p>Your memory of 14 year old events notwithstanding, I don’t think there is any evidence that they were told to not intervene in crimes they witnessed for ethnic sensitivity or any other reason. </p>

[actingmt]

<p>I can’t link it but have just listened to the audio of the handcuffing. She literally said, “I know my rights. I played a cop on TV.” omg.</p>

[razorsharp]

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I don’t think there is any evidence that they were told to not intervene in crimes they witnessed for ethnic sensitivity or any other reason.

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<p>Other than the evidence that you are wrong. My memory is pretty good sometimes.</p>

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A 10-year veteran who works in Manhattan said the problem went deeper than that – claiming cops were told to take a hands-off approach to parade-goers.
“We were told, ‘We don’t want to see any altercations between us and them,'” he told The Post.
“In other words: ‘Leave them alone, don’t bother. If they’re drinking, walk away. If they’re smoking pot, walk away.’
“We were told not to do anything … They don’t want photos of altercations with minorities,” he said. “It’s very frustrating when we’re told to have our blinders on.”

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<p><a href=“POLICE HUNT 7 MEN CAUGHT ON TAPE – WOMEN ID THEM AS MOLESTERS IN SEX-ABUSE HORROR”>http://nypost.com/2000/06/15/police-hunt-7-men-caught-on-tape-women-id-them-as-molesters-in-sex-abuse-horror/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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‘‘There’s a standing order – don’t take action in a demonstration situation unless directed by a supervisor, except in an emergency,’’ said the officer, who insisted that his name be withheld.

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<p><a href=“http://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/19/nyregion/metro-matters-park-rampage-stirs-anguish-on-2-fronts.html”>http://www.nytimes.com/2000/06/19/nyregion/metro-matters-park-rampage-stirs-anguish-on-2-fronts.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Of course the Police spokesman in that article said the unnamed officer was wrong.</p>

<p>Another thing I read was that a lot of the victims were white women and the perps were not white. I don’t know if the percentages were ever established, but if true, I guess that means the cops discriminated against white women in favor of non white criminals.</p>

[OHMomof2]

<p>Your NYPost article also states:

Mayor Giuliani denied claims that cops were ordered not to crack down on illegal behavior at the parade.

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<p>Someone’s lying, wonder if it’s the doesn’t-give-his-name cop or the law-and-order mayor? I am not sure how you can know.</p>

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The crux of the problem, Safir said, was that fewer officers were assigned to the area because it had not been a trouble spot during previous parades.</p>

<p>Police supervisors stuck to the pre-arranged deployment plans and failed to move officers to Central Park South when huge crowds gathered there.</p>

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<p>The mayor said he saw no signs of police restraint.</p>

<p>“I march[ed] in the parade and police officers weren’t backing off,” he said.</p>

<p>Giuliani said, however, that he met with seven victims and found “quite credible” the account of one who said she was turned away by police after she was attacked.</p>

<p>“She is prepared to identify the two police officers that did not respond, and I believe she can because she was able to give me physical descriptions of them,” he said.

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[OHMomof2]

<p>Hmm. You and your anonymous cop seem to be in a tiny minority on this. <a href=“The Central Park Rampage ”>http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/frame_game/2000/06/the_central_park_rampage.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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New Yorkers who have defended the police in previous altercations, however, aren’t buying any race-oriented excuses this time. Former New York Police Commissioner William Bratton wrote an op-ed in the Times criticizing the cops’ inadequate crowd control. Mayor Rudy Giuliani, who had initially defended the police and directed all blame toward the assailants, soon backed down, met with many of the victims, and called their experiences “horrendous.” Current Police Commissioner Howard Safir was obliged to make clear that his department’s executives had established “no special parameters for the Puerto Rican Day Parade” and that he would fire any officer who had ignored a victim’s complaint.

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[OHMomof2]

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Another thing I read was that a lot of the victims were white women and the perps were not white. I don’t know if the percentages were ever established, but if true, I guess that means the cops discriminated against white women in favor of non white criminals.

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<p>“Guess” if that’s what you want to do but it may be better to watch what actually happened, most of both were Puerto Rican people of shades ranging from pretty light to pretty dark. Attack video begins around 4:35. <a href=“https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGPCIc4F26E”>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGPCIc4F26E&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[zoosermom]

<p>I was at that specific parade as a large part of my extended family is Puerto Rican. From my perspective, there were some problems (I also work along the St. Patricks day parade route and got mugged once because it is a zoo, also) and have always found the press reports at least somewhat overblown,</p>

[catahoula]

<p>I’ve heard of the horror of NJ police profiling black motorists for about as long as I can remember but not this:

But rather than clarifying the issue, the study created its own muddle. Justice Department officials say they have such serious questions about the methods used to gather the data that they have asked New Jersey’s attorney general not to release the findings. It is not clear whether they will be made public.</p>

<p>The study involved photographing tens of thousands of drivers on the turnpike last spring while clocking speed with a radar gun. It found that black drivers sped much more than other drivers, according to three people who have reviewed the unreleased report. The racial gap was far wider than officials had expected and, in the politically charged controversies over profiling, the data could be used by defenders of the state police to argue that one reason black drivers are stopped more often than whites is that they are more likely to speed.

Not that it matters to the subject at hand necessarily, but those who obsess about profiling are no doubt better off for knowing of it.</p>

[Flossy]

<p><a href=“http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2014/09/19/daniele-watts-denounced-by-black-leaders”>http://www.laweekly.com/informer/2014/09/19/daniele-watts-denounced-by-black-leaders&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

[Flossy]

<p><a href=“https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/actress-detained-police-refuses-apologize-010219616.html;_ylt=AwrTccY87xxUOxUAhA4PxQt”>https://celebrity.yahoo.com/news/actress-detained-police-refuses-apologize-010219616.html;_ylt=AwrTccY87xxUOxUAhA4PxQt&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Okay, it’s wrap. Her publicist says she plans to take no further action. Good call.</p>

[Hunt]

<p>I will just note that we all lost interest in the Hollywood producer because he just wasn’t belligerent (or famous) enough to be fascinating.</p>

[Flossy]

<p>No, he’s making a career for himself on the activisty speakers circuit. It’s actually going pretty well. The actress is a different story, though.</p>

[TatinG]

<p>Civil rights leaders in LA have asked Watts to apologize to the police, saying they did nothing wrong. She has so far refused to apologize.</p>

[OHMomof2]

<p>Never mind, was saying something about the Dayton shooting but that’s not really relevant to this thread.</p>

[LakeWashington]

<p>Putting aside the validity or lack thereof of Danielle Watts’ claims, I would likely find any statements made by “civil rights leaders” in Los Angeles-- I specifically mean the folks who were poised to give Mr. Donald Sterling TWO HUMANITARIAN AWARDS-- irrelevant. LOL.</p>

[TatinG]

<p>Yeah, those humanitarian awards were bought and paid for by Sterling, no question. The head of the local NAACP admitted it. </p>

[actingmt]

<p>Well, if they have no credibility someone should tell Mr. Belk he’s wasting a lot of his time. He did dump the actress, though.</p>

[hayden]

<p>Anyone who questions whether the police ever treat blacks differently should take a look at the Columbia, SC police video. My personal belief is that too many police begin with the perception that blacks are more likely to be dangerous thugs than are white people. These folks don’t think of themselves as racist, and don’t hassle blacks out iof spite. But they approach situations through a lens that interprets the actions of blacks as more threatening than the same actions would be if the person were white. </p>

<p>This video is a perfect example. The officer asks the man, who has gotten out and is standing by his car, to produce his license. The black man reaches into his car, presumably to get his license, at which time the officer screams for him to get out of the car and starts to shoot him. It’s really amazing. The officer defends himself by saying the black guy “dove into” his car. You be the judge. How many shootings occur like this without a dash cam. </p>