Honours Calculus III/IV (Math 221/222)

<p>Has anyone taken these courses?</p>

<p>How challenging is the content? I realize this question is personal and subjective, but I'd still appreciate your perspective. How would someone who has gotten A's in both Math 101/102 handle the rigor of Honors Calculus? (i.e. Or someone with a 5 on AP Calculus BC) In terms of time commitment, is it a demanding course?</p>

<p>How's the grading? From what I can gather, it's got a take-home exam and the grade seems entirely dependent on Dr Jones who bases your grade on your progress through the term...not sure how this works exactly. Does this mean your grade is independent of how well you do relative to others in class?</p>

<p>Sorry for the long-winded post. I'd appreciate any input.</p>

<p>(Edit: I've actually had a chance to look over the courseware authored by Dr Jones. Does he expect you to know every minutiae...or does he have varying expectations for different students - in light of how this course is graded)</p>

<p>I haven't taken the class, but I have maaany smart friends who have (and all got 5s on AP - few people take it after 101/102) and they say it's challenging, but in a rewarding way. The take-home exam is hard (don't let the "take-home" part fool you). Dr. Jones is a fantastic teacher. Minute details aren't as important - thought process/understanding is, as with most university courses.</p>

<p>If you're an incoming student, you'll likely have the chance to ask an advisor during O-Week for more guidance.</p>

<p>i was in 221 for a day. looked interesting but wasn't for me. about half the people i know who took 221 ended up not enrolling for 222.</p>

<p>Yea, this class can be a little confusing in its grading structure. Basically he does a very individualized process, no idea how he does based on his perception of your improvement. For me, I think I almost failed the first test, got a C on the final, and got an A- in the class, if that tells you anything. Basically I found this class very difficult and even when I understood how to do the problems, I didn't really get what it meant in the real world. I also decided not to take the second semester because it helped me to realize that I'm really not a math kind of person even though I was always good at it in high school. All that being said, I highly recommend the class simply for the fact that it is taught by Frank Jones. I had him for one semester freshman year and early this year, my junior year, I passed him, awkwardly wondering if I should say hi. He came right up to me and we started chatting about our baseball teams, as we had during the semester. He's a great professor, always willing to help, learns all his students names (and birthdays for that matter) and I if I had the choice I would do it over again.</p>

<p>About the workload, it was tough for me at least. There was a homework due every class I think and most times I had to go to a session held by the TA the night before in order to complete it. It's hard but definitely do-able, and I recommend if you do decide to take the class, try to find a couple of people to work with because that helps a lot.</p>

<p>All in all, it's a tough class, will make you see if you love math or not (I know it really interested a lot of people in my class, just not for me) and you'll get to meet a great professor who with very little effort on your part can be someone to turn to for pretty much anything you need.</p>