<p>No wonder the Facebook stock suffers. Why white people, like Mrs Zuckerberg, let there sons loose on Wall Street wearing hoodies, it’s just beyond comprehension. Oh the horror.</p>
<p>What’s wrong with hoodies? I have a problem with pants down below the butt, although I understand it to be a fashion statement specifically designed to offend me. And sunny (warm) weather is exactly when I wear a hat… always… to protect my bald head. :D</p>
<p>On a related note, is it no longer expected that boys/men take their hats off indoors? I always make my sons remove their caps inside. We were always taught that…but now I often see men wearing baseball caps in restaurants.</p>
<p>TheGFG:</p>
<p>Reading your posts together you seem to be implying that the young African American man in question would be endangering himself at your suburban school if he wore a hoodie. If that is the case, it sounds to me like your school community has worse issues than dress code to grapple with.</p>
<p>Baseball caps are the aging hipsters weave.
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<p>fo3b, No, it’s not expected. I don’t understand the big deal. My boyfriend wears a “newsies” (don’t know what they’re called) hat all the time. My dad wears some kind of baseball hat all the time. The whole “no wearing hats inside” has never made sense to me. Who cares?</p>
<p>As for the hoodies, if you’re going to associate it with gang violence and what not, then that’s YOUR problem, not the kid’s. “Why stir the pot?” How about “Why give in to racist stereotypes?” I agree, kids, especially young non-white males, need to take precautions that white kids don’t have to. I think it’s absolutely disgusting that that’s the case, but nevertheless… however, I don’t think that they should have to stop wearing hoodies, a staple of our generation’s clothing, just because there are nutcases out there. There are always going to be things to fear, and the vast majority of the population doesn’t associate hoodies with gang wear. </p>
<p>I wear hoodies in all kinds of weather. I am always freaking cold. But I guess it’s OK because I’m white. eye roll</p>
<p>Liking your post saintfan.</p>
<p>As I am reading this post, I can’t see how a young man getting out of his parent’s car and walking into a suburban school is in danger of anything. Possibly because he feels safe in this environment, he is being himself. If you watch closely you will also see young men of all races with the hood up. Having the hood up is now a universal sign for “I may or may not be listening to you”.
As to respect to conform-you did say this was a school? What conforming did yu expect the young man to do? Hoodies are typical clothing year round, along with shorts in cold weather and flip-flops with everything. </p>
<p>I don’t think all young people should let fear rule their lives, and most will not change their behavior based on one nutcase in Florida. When a rapist in your community is targeting dark-haired women, should everyone bleach their hair blonde?</p>
<p>Great post, Mizzbee. </p>
<p>The rational for not wanting AA kids to wear hoodies seems to keep changing in this thread. First it’s because it’s dangerous to them (and like Saintfan said, that’s a problem in your neighborhood and school that needs to be addressed), then it’s because it’s disrespectful (but apparently only when the wearer is African-American… I’m not sure how grandmas and dresses in church applies). As far as the hoods in school issue–our HS bans hats in school, so the hoodies go down when they go inside. If the school doesnt, then that’s the school’s business.</p>
<p>I’m really not getting the point of this thread at all. It seems to follow the same reasoning that puts women in burkahs in other countries. (it’s “for their own good” 
).</p>
<p>Hats are banned at our middle school, but allowed at the HS unless they become “a distraction”. D wears a knit beanie almost all winter and when she wakes up late and also a baseball cap of some kind on many days. There are kids with fedoras and “newsies” who are making their own fashion statement. DS is strictly a shorts, flip flops and hoodie guy year round. In December he may change out to tennis shoes, but back to the flip flops ASAP.</p>
<p>DH wears a baseball cap as a combined middle age “weave” as EK said and because that’s what is worn at his workplace (another wink to EK). Yes, I do remind him to take it off before going to a nicer restaurant, school concert etc, or if we’re having a china and silver family dinner, but not at local casual eatery where every other guy is in a cap. In those cases there is a respect factor - no, one wouldn’t wear a baseball cap to church with grandma - but I don’t see the hoodie at school comparison to that.</p>
<p>My son wears his flannel-lined LL Bean jeans when it’s 85 degrees. I say, “Honey, if you wear those flannel-lined jeans people will think you’re a lumberjack. You know you’re not but people will think that so you better change.”</p>
<p>I reflexively started singing,
“Oh, I’m a lumberjack and I’m ok…” </p>
<p>;)</p>
<p>We entered one restaurant that had a sign that read, “No hoodies or sunglasses.” We immediately left that restaurant and went to another with no sign. Don’t want to get involved in any crossfire or possibility of gangs or violence. I have many “hoodies,” as does my SR citizen hubby & our young 20s kiddos. None of us are at all interested in gangs or violence & none of us are African American, tho not sure what “color” we are. Our home is HI, where the temps are generally quite warm but we do have A/C, which makes everyone quite chilled. Am not aware of any of the many folks I know who own hoodies who have any connection with gangs or violence, tho of course thugs COULD wear those or anything else!</p>
<p>At the airport security screening, I noticed people were being made to remove their hoodies. I would be tempted to wear one with nothing underneath just to see if they made me take it off, i.e. is it a layers problem or a hoodie problem?</p>
<p>But I do not want to be unnecessarily delayed just to prove a point!</p>
<p>They have always made me remove ALL jackets, including ones that are fitted at TSA. I don’t feel that it’s restricted to hoodies. Yes, you would delay yourself AND others if you “decided to prove a point,” and might get extra scrutiny for being a troublemaker. I prefer to cause as little fuss as possible at TSA, but I do insist on handscreening/patdown instead of the full-body scanner which they have been using all of May! Unfortunately, it takes longer but I fly too much to get scanned, especially when they don’t know long term risks & side effects. Have told my kids to opt out as well, but no idea if they do. H does NOT & just goes thru the scanner (I have no control over him).</p>
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<p>Why would somebody be labled a troublemaker for wearing just a hoodie? I throw one on with nothing underneath all the time with yoga pants to run errands.</p>
<p>^Exactly. I have seen them as fashion/comfort wear.</p>
<p>I don’t do this at the airport b/c I think I know the answer. TSA would view me as a troublemaker!</p>
<p>@Emeraldkity,
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<p>Ha! No, fedoras are for aging hipsters! Nonhipsters are in baseball caps!</p>
<p>PNWedwonk: I need to tak lessons from you - I am a luddite when it comes to quoting and emphasizing 
:mad: :(</p>
<p>Saintfan - I’ll give you one more :eek: (my fave) It is the word eek with a colon before and after.</p>
<p>Oh quote and bold are easy once you know they exist! Use the square brackets instead of the curly ones I have here: {quote}Cut and paste your quote{/quote}, same for bold but use the letter b instead of the word quote. Now I have to figure out the rule for emoticons, does 
work? :eek: I guess not!</p>