House hunting quandry

H and I have been scouting around at other houses for some time now, debating whether to move back into the city, build new, downsize, renovate a mansion, that sort of thing. We found something that is rather spectacular, but we’re not sure about our footing as yet- although if we’re interested we will have to move quickly on it.

Unfortunately, one of the first things that H said was that he would do something that I feel would destroy part of the overall character. I would not want to buy a place where I felt we were going to ruin some element unnecessarily. Given the timeline, if H decides he wants to go for it, there is going to be a LOT of pressure on me to go along.

Without getting into a debate on the proposed change itself, would you just go along and hope for the best in this situation? Or stand your ground and say that you are totally NOT interested? H is not a compromiser, so I have to assume that if he wants to change X, he will change X, regardless of how I feel about it

Sounds like if you would not be happy living in the house with X done to it, just keep looking.

I have no idea what I would do not knowing what the proposal is.

If this is a moral–I can’t do that to that property!–I’d consider what the next person moving in is going to do. It may be a done deal no matter who lives there. Might as well be you if you like the property.

If it’s a “I loved this place until you painted the house purple and dug a hole in the front yard” that’s a different scenario.
And room for compromise.

Stand your ground.

And, if he is talking about destroying some essential feature of a vintage/historic house, please accept my HUGE thanks for resisting! Leave a house like that to someone who appreciates it.

Go, xaniamom!

I live in an old house and I consider myself more of a caretaker than an owner with 100% freedom to change things.

In fact, I felt the same way about the last house we lived in and it was a developer house from the 60s. Stand your ground and make yourself clear to your H now.

“Leave a house like that to someone who appreciates it”

You don’t get to decide who gets the property or what is done with it. It could be torn down completely if that’s the plan of the next owners.

If you find a good place to live that both of you like–buy it. Hopefully come to some agreement on renovations that make you both happy.
We’d all be living in little tiny shacks with no running water if no renovations were ever done.
(and maybe that’s not the problem at all–need to hear from OP).

OP–to answer the question (after re-reading…)
I would ask this question—How much do I want to live on this property?
How upset will I be when someone else buys it and I’m sitting here looking further for somewhere to live?
Forget about your hubbie–will YOU be kicking yourself that the property got away?
You’ve already been looking around so you should know your options…gonna be unhappy if you hear it’s under contract tomorrow?

@gouf78 , have you ever lived in a house that is 100+ or 200+ old?

You said it’s “rather spectacular.” That says a lot. I wouldn’t dismiss it out of hand. You and DH need to go back and see the house again. He might change his mind. You need to talk to DH and figure this out together.

Can you imagine staring at the renovation every single day? Missing the X factor that made the house unique, or defined the house’s history/character?

Hard to fill in the missing pieces here, but you say your husband will get His Way with this house renovation. You will be living His Vision for this property. And maybe that means that you will be grieving the loss of the spectacular element that initially drew you in.

Will you be criticized by neighbors who are horrified that you changed the house so drastically? That may or may not be a factor with this property.

I encourage you to pass on this property. Find something you both love, something that draws you closer together with a similar vision for renovations.

Do any of you old house lovers follow For Love of Old Houses on facebook?

@Consolation–Nope–thankfully I’ve never lived in a house that old and from the OP post I have no idea if that is their intent either. OP hasn’t said what they are looking at.

I do have a friend who DID live in a 150 year old house with lots of “character” who now says “never again”.

But----
Having “re-read” this post AGAIN-- maybe this is the main question…(help me out here OP!)

“Would you jump into this situation with your husband despite not liking his ideas on the property and possibly getting run over by his freight train actions despite what I want?”

Yes–if I absolutely loved the bones of the property. A lot of that is location for me. Details come later. The bones of the property will always be there. If you love the location it’s hard to go wrong. A decent house is gravy.

No–if there were only details I loved in a house that were going to be destroyed and couldn’t be replicated in some way.and it didn’t have other redeeming qualities of location etc —then no. I would never buy a house just because of it’s looks (My H was cute but he certainly has redeeming qualities to be around this long!)

I’d stand my ground… but then again, I’d probably be on my way out the door with a spouse who isn’t able to compromise. :wink:

If it’s an old house, I’d be more leery of the age than my husband destroying any features. For seven years, we lived in a house built in 1917. “NEVER AGAIN!” is right!

Not for the same reasons, but 28 years ago, DH and I walked away from an historic property in Marblehead, MA (a coffee table book house; if you know Marblehead, you know this house). I had mentally moved in and, to me, it will always be the house that got away. I have always regretted that decision. However, if I thought DH was going to alter any significant part of that house’s character that, too, would have stopped the sale. Even if the next buyer were to tear the house down, the desecration would not be on my conscience. In Marblehead, strict preservation laws preclude the type of change I’m guessing the OP’s DH is considering. @xaniamom: Do you know if such rules exist to protect this house from your DH?

@xaniamom: We could be more helpful if you added specifics about the house and what your DH wants to do to it.

That is s toughie. There are people that can’t imagine anything but new and those that love the history and quierks of very old. It is a struggle to bring new to old without destroying the character and this comes from someone living in super old…but only the OP can speak to whether the battles with the spouse are surmountable or not. Fortunately while my H and I battled over every little thing including the style for a needed new front door those battles were ultimately always compromise decisions with each of us giving alittle. I could not imagine buying a home with someone if I couldn’t envision compromise positions and would look for a different house.

OP: I would tell my husband I don’t want the property if we are doing XX to it. Otherwise, I do want it. (assuming you do want it?) Then it’s up to him. My husband and I have had these discussions. A decade ago I told him I would agree to a “mansion” that had had a fairly recent and well done restoration, but which seemed to me too large and overwhelming for comfortable upkeep at this point in our lives, if he would commit to just letting it decay around us. We sat on on one of four magnificent staircases and imagined what my plan looked like in five years, ten years, etc. We passed on that place. To put this in perspective, the house we did buy had been abandoned 40 years, and had never had plumbing or electricity and was exactly as it had been originally built, no changes whatsoever to the original design and fabric. It needed everything, including a very small addition to hold kitchen, bathrooms, and closets, because no way I was messing up my pristine period find, but it was just a fraction of the square footage of the famous architect, historic mansion. It was possible to reach a stopping point in our labors. I have to repair things, but don’t have workmen on site year round, year after year.

I can’t tell if you are talking about an antique house, an architect desgined contemporary gem, or a spectacular piece of property. It seems to me lots of times home shoppers are attracted to something outside the norm, and buy it and then, sometimes unintentionally, renovate the property out of what originally appealed to them. But maybe you are talking about cutting down ancient trees to improve a water view? Again, what is it about the property that appeals?

We have restored (not renovated!) a 1774 house, an 1810 house, and a 1870 house. This is a lifestyle choice. Rational people do not do this. imho. They buy someone else’s restoration/renovation. I used to be very sentimental and romantic about saving these houses. I am over that. I do it for me because this is how I want to live. However, if you remove original features, please store them in an outbuilding just in case the next homeowner wants to put them back. A wall had been removed in our 1774 house, but the owner had stored the door and all the molding/woodwork in the barn. It was wonderful to us to have the opportunity to put the original back where it “belonged” I imagine the current owners have removed a bunch of walls to put in what my architect friend calls a trophy kitchen. That’s fine with me. It’s their house now. Old house friends recently asked us if we are endowing our present property somehow for preservation purposes. I have restored several farm outbuildings as well as the main house. I just laughed. I’ve told the kids to keep it or let it go, but gave them the name of the local realtor they should use.

Sometimes we still talk about that mansion:) And my husband keeps updating me on price drops on another place by the same architect languishing on the market. It has retained all the original woodwork. I refuse to go see it. At least so far. We are collectors. I am really trying to avoid collecting houses. It just isn’t sensible. imho.

adding: Most of this post belonged in the “get it off your chest thread” lol.

Wow, CC is jumping to conclusions today. OP said, “Unfortunately, one of the first things that H said was that he would do something that I feel would destroy part of the overall character.”

Someone talks about old houses and the next thing you know the house is 100 years old and we’re debating renovating historic houses. @alh noted that we aren’t sure if this is an antique house, architectural gem, etc.

This is why this question can’t be answered without more details on the renovation although I lean to pass if your husband doesn’t compromise. The compromise will have to happen when you decide on which house to buy.

In spite of writing a book on one of my favorite subjects, I do think it is possible to answer the OP’s original question without more details.

How does one deal with the decision to buy a spectacular property, when there is a difference of opinion on making a significant change to the property with a spouse who won’t compromise? I think I did actually answer that question somewhere in my rambling post.

I would just say I don’t want it if we are making that change. If you only want it with the change, let’s keep looking. Lots of properties out there.