<p>^ I agree with you. I didn’t really see it that way, but now I see through your perspective. Thanks for taking the time to point that out. :)</p>
<p>I think I can agree with Smiley. There can never be a winner or progress on either side.</p>
<p>That may be, but friendliness helps the other person understand and appreciated your views.</p>
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<p>I’m not here to prove anything. But some of the ridiculous “arguments” and “proof” typed by some of the feminists in this thread compelled me to point out their foolishness. So far I haven’t seen one decent argument explaining how “women are oppressed” that wasn’t completely subjective, or didn’t rely on anecdotes, didn’t use outdated/unverifiable statistics, or even attempted to tell us in what objective medium that women are being “oppressed” in. The logical faculties of the regular feminist repliers is terrible at best, yet that doesn’t stop them from arrogantly posting some of the stuff they have.</p>
<p>So no, I’m not here to prove some contrary, but will be glad to call out the feminist talking points, inaccuracies and fallacious posts as long as necessary. The reason they probably continue to make them is because no one else has called them out throughout the past part of their lives.</p>
<p>^ You were supposed to agree with her in order to prove her wrong. ;)</p>
<p>I get that you’re not here to prove anything. Never said you were. Just said it was pointless. You’ve called out the “inaccuracies and fallacious posts” for a while (abt 38 pages) and you haven’t really accomplished anything. </p>
<p>But I guess my post is kinda ironic, b/c here I am posting that you’ll never get the other person to see it thru ur perspective, and I’m trying to get ya’ll to see it thru my perspective…lol</p>
<p>I don’t think someone with the name “BetterThanYouAre” can talk about someone else being arrogant. Just sayin’</p>
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<p>Lol</p>
<p><em>YAWN</em></p>
<p>Just kidding, just kidding…I had to do it.</p>
<p><em>smites</em></p>
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<p>Blair: that senseless assertion I made was an example of asserting patently false information as true without any evidence or sources backing it up.</p>
<p>Also: did you actually read that article you linked Blair?</p>
<p>“The study showed that the salary gap is primarily explained by the fact that female engineers, on average, have fewer years of experience since their first baccalaureate degree than males; salaries of female and male engineers with similar years of experience are virtually the same.”</p>
<p>Are you intentionally trying to b.s. us? You’re just like the feminists of the 60s and 70s (I’ll refrain from commenting on today’s feminists - and I’m specifically talking about 3rd wave feminism - not your own invented “feminism” that you love or support women - if that were the definition than most of the world would be feminists)</p>
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<p>I agree with her but for different reasons.</p>
<p>There can’t be a winner because the question “How are women ‘opressed’ by men?” is one that isn’t answerable in a definitive objective manner. We can’t even gleam from it an actual question because of the subjectivability of the word “oppressed”. All that can ever be “answered” with are opinions which prove absolutely nothing.</p>
<p>As for the username, there’s nothing wrong with arrogance as long as it can be backed up, of course :)</p>
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<p>The thing is I don’t necessarily want the other person to see through my perspective either. As long as my posts enlighten just ONE person (anyone) about the wrongness of another post, i’m satisfied.</p>
<p>Really the only people that continually compel me to reply are people like…</p>
<p>Well, let’s just say they rhyme with “WogicLorrior”, “CamieJakes”, and “legoeikestomach”</p>
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<p>you’re dancing around the issue and debating semantics. men don’t have to worry about women doing any of this stuff to them, women do have to worry about men doing stuff to them, this makes women distrustful of men but not vice versa, people don’t distrust their own sex because they’re similar</p>
<p>also <a href=“http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male-female_income_disparity_in_the_USA[/url]”>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male-female_income_disparity_in_the_USA</a></p>
<p>^ Honestly, that’s BS, and if you took three seconds to think about it, you’d concur.</p>
<p>Not distrusting someone just because he’s the same gender? WHAT? Distrusting everyone because they’re a different gender? WHAT?</p>
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<p>If a man doesn’t distrust men and a woman does distrust men, and they both have equal reason to distrust men, then if anything, that’s sexism on the woman’s behalf (or perhaps men are just incredibly forgiving…RIGHT?).</p>
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<p>This is the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard anyone say.</p>
<p>I’m going to have to agree with Smiley…I think it is pointless to try to show some of the pro-feminists how illogical they are being. It’s like trying to prove to a christian that there is no God. However, I do think there’s a point in blocking attempts to spread the feminazi virus amongst the general population.</p>
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<p>What’s the issue then? The fact that men do it, but women “don’t”? (Which is complete bullsh1t by the way)</p>
<p>The issue here is you claiming these acts are sexist. You are trying to define it as sexism based purely on that action, and not the motives.</p>
<p>MOTIVES ARE EVERYTHING. Just because something harmful happens to a woman by a man’s doing, does not make it sexist. You seem to think it does, and keep ignoring the fact that men do things things indiscriminately to other men as well.</p>
<p>By defining any harm done to them by men as something greater than the same harm done to other men, you are putting women on a level ANOVE men. That makes you a female supremacist (which seems to be how modern day “feminism” is practiced), and ironically, a sexist.</p>
<p>Peter_Parker, yes I did read that article.</p>
<p>I was specifically referencing the portion that was not about female and male engineers. However, they did note that while female engineers put in less hours, they make up for in the calibur of their work. Therefore, should probably be paid the same in more situations. </p>
<p>Sorry, I took your information as a reference. Nonetheless, it would be interesting if true!</p>
<p>BetterThanYouAre, I am glad my posts have not made you angry and/or compelled to reply because they were poor. Hahaha</p>
<p>lahdeedahdeedahh…</p>
<p>Darko, although I understand your point, you should not see Feminism as a bad thing. I think educated Feminism that uses logic and understanding is quite valuable! Such as that featured in Women’s Studies classes, etc.</p>
<p>Blair, although I would love to hear more about women studies classes, I’m afraid to point out that no feminist has come up with any worthwhile or even logical argument as to why women are oppressed, and most just use rhetoric, speculation, and subjective opinions. </p>
<p>Love,
Darko</p>
<p>Darko, although I would love to be subjected to more sarcasm, I will retreat to my room, where I will read about how Feminists in the past helped further the causes of abolitionists, suffragists, etc. and ultimately, influenced the passage of the 19th Amendment. I will also think about how if it weren’t for logical, reasonable Feminists, women would have never been enfranchised.</p>
<p>Love,
Blair :)</p>