<p>the brains of men and women are different, but that should not influence anything. we should strive to do what is right, not what is natural.</p>
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<p>Are you serious?</p>
<p>Well that certainly explains a lot.</p>
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<p>seriously, i’m half amused and half horrified. </p>
<p>anyone arguing that men are oppressed, a++ strawman but that’s not what we’re talking about here. yes, women getting custody in divorce cases is a HUGE problem. and you know what it stems for? the false belief that women are naturally more nurturing and men naturally don’t give a damn about their offspring, something that feminism works to change. anyone fapping about how ~OMG there are engineering scholarships for only women!~ is entirely missing the point: from a young age, girls are taught to be more interested in the humanities than in math and science, and scholarships in engineering and the ilk are designed to encourage more women to step outside of traditional gender roles. i’m sure there are similar scholarships for male nurses, and i KNOW that public colleges in the united states were made co-educational in order to ensure educational fairness for male students.</p>
<p>i’d also like to point out that in the history of science, scientific “evidence” has much more often than not supported the common cultural beliefs of the day. remember when all those scientists “proved” that black people were biologically inferior, smelly, and incapable of learning? or how about when it “proved” that disease was spontaneously generated? science is highly influenced by the culture in which it operates, and if that culture is interested in proving that men and women are inherently and seriously different, that’s what it’s going to find. And, quite honestly, I do not trust it. </p>
<p>and all of you women who are all “i’m a woman, but i’m not a ~feminist~,” you’re really short-changing yourselves. stop being influenced by a society that seeks to disempower women at every opportunity.</p>
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<p>but still could be somewhat appropriate, depending on your energy level</p>
<p>Indeed. I’ve been drinking green tea all day, let’s hang out.</p>
<p>“Are you serious?”</p>
<p>how is it not serious to want things to be fair, even if that’s not the way they are naturally?</p>
<p>Egolikestomatch: The fact that men and women are physically different is not influenced by culture, it’s not open for debate, it’s not even close to scientists who made racist remarks about black people. No one is making sexist remarks about women or men based on brain differences, but denying they exist makes you look ignorant. And brain differences are not based on culture. </p>
<p>Women generally have wider corpus callosums. Men generally have larger inferior-parietal lobules - this is not influenced by culture 
they’re physical facts, just like women having a vagina and men testes. Although men and women are overall very similar, there are physical differences which naturally influence our behavior, although since you don’t trust science i’m sure you’ll think the MRI and PET scans are lying. </p>
<p>Engineering scholarships for women make sense, since obviously Engineering schools don’t want to end up with 70% men or whatever, but I notice it doesn’t always hold true the other way around. Most interior designers are women, yet I never hear people complaining about the gender imbalance in the interior design industry…i’m guessing it’s since it’s seen as a relatively unimportant field compared to something like engineering? 
(sorry guys)</p>
<p>in Psych we learned women do better in math in female-only classes, and some private schools in America segregate boys and girls for math! studies show girls do better in those classes. i thought that was pretty interesting.</p>
<p>but the fact that those physical differences are ascribed to be the root of social differences IS influenced by culture.</p>
<p>eta: i really hate to run with the race analogies here but i might as well. anatomical differences were a HUGE part of “proving” the inadequacies of various races. the fact that black women had, on average, larger behinds was called proof of their sexual excess. wider noses were equated to animalistic tendencies. the argument isn’t whether or not black women have bigger butts or if people of african descent have wider facial features, just like idgaf about what part of whose brain is bigger. the point is how that information is used and interpreted.</p>
<p>I don’t miss the point of the scholarships. That’s pretty damn obvious. But viewing people as “men” or “women” instead of individuals and offering selective scholarships based on what group you belong to is discrimination. Justify it however you want; it doesn’t change what it is.</p>
<p>No, having a 70% male engineering dept. is discrimination. The scholarships are there to make sure that no one is left out of the engineering dept. just for being female.</p>
<p>lol oh ok so gender roles can totally go out the window when we’re assigning scholarships, but the rest of the time they’re just natural and a-ok? MAKES SENSE!</p>
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<p>uhhhh, no it’s not. The engineering department doesn’t make decisions based on gender. Another failure by logicwarrior.</p>
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<p>yeah, they make sense when they’re offered based on individual achievement and need. Not on some idea that it’d be cool to have equal representation in engineering.</p>
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<p>That is a flawed analogy. Those physical traits you described don’t directly influence behavior, while physical differences in the brain DO influence behavior.</p>
<p>There is no point in trying to argue with you people when you won’t even acknowledge basic neurological differences between the sexes</p>
<p>ego - I understand your argument and I know about the racist arguments even promoted by biologists, but the fact of the matter is differences in brain structure and the amount of white vs grey matter and how dense the neuron network is in certain parts of the brain do make a difference, as do differences in hormones, it’s not a coincidence that women tend to be better with language/words and have better memory and men are often better with spatial reasoning. I feel like this argument is going nowhere because you shun the science and attribute the differences solely to culture, and it just doesn’t make sense from the perspective of someone who’s spending the next 3 years studying the human/brain nervous system that anyone would deny basic physical differences or that they influence behavior.</p>
<p>Logic - I don’t get your point. I see it this way - Engineering dept’s don’t want to be dominated by men, we want more women in engineering/science. So just like AA exists to help our minorities, those special scholarships exist to help women and encourage them. But i don’t think the system is unfair…women are free to apply for engineering spots, not as many do. women are not being left out for being female, they’re being left out because fewer apply and don’t do as well in math/science. no one is stopping them from applying, we’re being encouraged.</p>
<p>“The engineering department doesn’t make decisions based on gender.”</p>
<p>offering scholarships to more women than men isn’t a decision based on gender?</p>
<p>SHOCKING.</p>
<p>Oh, and acknowledging that there are differences in the brain structure of the sexes isn’t sexist, saying one sex is superior to another because of them is.</p>
<p>you are entirely missing my point. </p>
<p>show me, please, the study that says “this part of the brain most definitely affects this part of behavior.” because until i get that study, all i’m hearing is “scientists theorize that this might explain why women like cooking and having babies and men like scratching their balls and drinking beer.”</p>
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<p>I was talking about admission decisions, ■■■■■■. And those scholarships aren’t usually offered by the engg department. I’ve actually never heard of that. It’s other organizations that give them out.</p>
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<p>you don’t think that different brain composition exists for a reason? Jesus ****ing christ. Whether we know exactly how each part of the brain affects behavior is irrelevant (I’m sure that they have a pretty good idea), just the fact that the brain grows differently in men and women is enough to prove to anyone with half a brain that it will cause differences in behavior.</p>
<p>so then it’s charity? you’re calling a charity designed to help women sexist against men?</p>
<p>lmao</p>
<p>every scholarship is “charity.” And yeah, charity can be sexist. You people are so dense that you’re giving me a headache. You are the stupidest person I’ve ever seen on here.</p>
<p>can i please get a little judith butler up in here</p>