How are women "oppressed" by men?

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<p>you’re probably right about “social science” scholarships, though. tbh i’d love to hear about a scholarship for a guy to study gender and sexuality. it’d be awesome.</p>

<p>i’m in econ, and i’m not sure why everyone keeps saying i agree with ego?</p>

<p>“They usually are.”</p>

<p>it’s a joke, i doubt you’d find that many people who think selective charity is discrimination. i’m the one who’s saying scholarships that benefit one gender are NOT sexist, that’s hardly “finding sexism in everything”.</p>

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<p>The Venus De Milo has no arms.</p>

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<p>i’m wondering this myself.</p>

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<p>I’m not even going to bother explaining further. You’re ■■■■■■■■ and can’t understand it.</p>

<p>you believe that helping women is sexist. sleep on that.</p>

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<p>read up on some other sexist organizations while you’re at it.</p>

<p>I believe that helping anyone on the basis of what group they belong to and ignoring others is discrimination. That’s actually a fact. I’d give you some information to read if I felt that you could understand it.</p>

<p>also ftr since i was referred to as “it” earlier, i’m a chick and i am not in gender studies</p>

<p>and because we all need a few laughs…</p>

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<p>“I believe that helping anyone on the basis of what group they belong to and ignoring others is discrimination.”</p>

<p>I’ll make sure to donate to a homeless person tomorrow, just to discriminate against the non-homeless. If he’s black, even better. If it’s a woman, even better.</p>

<p>Look, I get you russell. People get afraid when their beliefs are challenged. I know. I used to hold your beliefs and think that it was so hard for me to be a straight white male. I got better.</p>

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<p>Sorry, doesn’t compare to giving women financial aid instead of men on the basis of them being “encouraged” away from engineering.</p>

<p>I actually agree with ego on how it should be dealt with.</p>

<p>I’m sorry, I’m in college and don’t have that kind of money.</p>

<p>"giving women financial aid instead of men on the basis of women being encouraged away from engineering. "</p>

<p>I’m still getting a chuckle at the fact that you think this is a bad thing.</p>

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<p>■■■■■■■ tend to laugh a lot</p>

<p>Everyone just stop now, seriously what is the point? you’re not getting anywhere, you’re at the same place you were when you started. When you debate you’re supposed to learn, progress but that’s assuming the people arguing are rational and when someone puts forth evidence as people have you should agree because it’s fact and not refute it with bs. I got a headache reading this thread.</p>

<p>^^^^ hahahaha @post176. i’m not laughing at who the comment is meant for, but just simply at the comment made.</p>

<p>to me it’s a bit ridiculous that the last few pages of arguments have been based on women being oppressed in engineering programs. are people forgetting that there are many more women in college than there are men? just seems like such a bad thing to argue when its perhaps the last place in which women are oppressed. in fact the entire educational system is probably geared more toward females than males. i remember reading about how the traditional classroom setting is geared more toward females which is why more of them end up going to college while more males end up dropping out by high school. they displayed the differences in the brain wave activity among children in the classrooms during some tests they conducted.</p>

<p>just because women are not the majority in a certain field does not mean they are oppressed in that field, likewise for men. i think for the most part many social barriers have been broken over the past few decades amongst women and men. if there are more men or women in a certain field, it’s most likely because that’s what that specific gender tends to lean more toward in their interests (which can most likely be tied to how their brain is stimulated when they are approached with these subjects they are interested in). why is it a problem if men don’t like poetry as much? why is it a problem if women don’t like the sciences as much? trying to force/steer a group of people to like something they generally don’t like is just dumb. it’s almost like trying to force gay people to be straight. good luck with that. it’s survival of the fittest when you think about it. if the best writers happen to be women, good for them. we shouldn’t be forcing men to be really good at something they aren’t. it would be like opening up the NBA to all genders and forcing women into the league just to make things equal even though they are not the best players. clearly if they are not the best players, why should they be in the league in the first place?</p>

<p>in essence, individuals should be dictating what fields they want to be in. and scholarships rarely do much for that any ways. i actually just got a federal SMART grant because of my major. but i didn’t pick the major because of the grant, i picked it because that’s what i’m interested in and it’s something i’ve been interested in for quite sometime now. of course i’ll gladly take the aid (who wouldn’t?) but that’s not really the point. it’s foolish to think that women are suddenly going to want to become engineers because of some scholarships. that money is probably better spent in creating K-12 programs that open kids to potential careers in the field of engineering.</p>

<p>BP that made a lot of sense, it was a nice change.</p>

<p>good post, but does it really matter that more women go to college when men make more on average and hold more positions of power? what happens after college is the real issue, not college itself.</p>

<p>“of course i’ll gladly take the aid (who wouldn’t?) but that’s not really the point. it’s foolish to think that women are suddenly going to want to become engineers because of some scholarships.”</p>

<p>i don’t work for a scholarship fund or anything, but the point seems to me to be that if more women go into engineering, it won’t be as taboo in our society.</p>

<p>haha that’s funny since you argued about what happens in college for what seemed like a long time. Yeah, statistics do show that men get paid more than women for doing the same job, how unfair, what ever will we do about it?</p>

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<p>That’s good to know, I’m glad I voted for Obama.</p>