How can I tell my son that we cannot afford his dream university

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Actually, the non-impacted majors at non-impacted CSUs admit transfers even down to 2.0 college GPA (but with important general education and major preparation courses passed with C or higher grades).


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@ucbalumnus I think you missed the point. IF THE SON wants his CHOICE of transfer schools at his parents’ expense for tuition, room, board, and books, then THEY can say that he needs at least a 3.0. IF he gets a 2.5, then he can commute to the LOCAL CSU and get his degree.

^yup, exactly.

OP, have you checked whether the D would result in your son being rescinded from his dream school (which I’m assuming is a CSU, but could be a private 4-year like UoP or Uredlands)?

Why doesn’t he just look at one of the schools still accepting applications and try one of those?

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They live in Calif. The only schools still accepting application now would be privates or OOS publics for this family…none would work…all would be way too expensive.

A cooling off period may be a good idea. Really, there’s no shame (for you or your kid) in taking a year off if it’s for something rewarding and productive. Getting the kid into college by the standard deadline is not worth the level of stress you seem to be experiencing. Remember, college is a means to an end of attaining a career. It’s not the end game. There are a lot of successful people out there that took time away from education. After 12 years of schooling and standardized tests etc. having some time to reflect may be a good thing (and by reflect, I don’t mean sitting on one’s a** staring at a video game.)

All the community colleges are still taking applications and most have only just started registering students for classes. Community college in California is an excellent option, and is very cost effective. The family may find out toward the end of summer that he did not do well enough in the remedial math and English program he is required to take as summer school at the 4-year college. It would still be possible at that point to find some classes with space at a community college in August. Community college is also a great way to try out a variety of majors and career paths.

The summer school will require the same commute that he would need to do in the fall, right? Fall will depend on how much he is late to the summer school and whether he passes the summer school.

Regarding the majors you mentioned in the other thread, I don’t know about your particular 3 nearby community colleges, but ours offers 12 anthropology courses and an one course specifically on forensics and several on criminology. I’d also expect that some biology and chemistry classes would be needed for that career path, and all CA community colleges would have the basic courses in those subjects.

Just be honest with him. I got accepted in some pretty good schools - Lafeyette College, Skidmore College, Wheaton College, WPI - but in the end my parents just told me “we can’t afford it”.
I was devastated at first as I wanted to go to a liberal arts college or a small University, but I understood my parents’ concern. So I choose SUNY Stony Brook in the end over some other cheaper (because of merit scholarships) and similarly ranked private universities.
I’m sure your son will come to understand. Offer him alternatives if he really wants to go to his dream school (like maybe transferring or commuting by living off campus). I finally came to an understanding when my parents made me do the math. Both my parents are retired as well. And even in SUNY SB, my education is going to cost 500k (100k more than expected due to currency exchange rates), so I’m still thankful that my parents are sending me overseas. Also, tell him your reasons and concerns. After all, he has to understand that your responsibilities as parents might include paying for his tertiary education, but not necessarily at his dream school.

I think his plan is not practical, safe or reasonable.
A new driver commuting 4- 5 hours a day to college, and doing so for 4 years is not a good plan.

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And even in SUNY SB, my education is going to cost 500k (100k more than expected due to currency exchange rates), so I’m still thankful that my parents are sending me overseas.


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What country are you in that an OOS SUNY will cost you $500k in the end??? Aren’t SUNY’s about $32k OOS??


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I think his plan is not practical, safe or reasonable. A new driver commuting 4- 5 hours a day to college, and doing so for 4 years is not a good plan.

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This brings up another point…with so much time driving, once you add in class time, when would he have the time or motivation to study or do homework. It would seem like he’d get home and collapse.

@Megtan How is SB going to cost 500k? SUNY Stony Brook costs approximately 38k for OOS and International students, and the costs for four years will be approximately 160k (adjusted for inflation).

Could it be 500k in her currency, converted from US dollars?

To the OP I offer this advice. Give your son a dollar amount that you can afford and tell him if he can make his dream school work with that dollar amount he can enroll tomorrow. Sometimes kids can’t see the forest for the trees. My brothers daughter is attending our flagship state university. She only wanted the best of everything. He gave her a dollar amount she had to work with and told her to make it work anyway she can. She quickly learned her need list did not match up with her want list.

The issue isn’t just money.

There is the issue of him driving one of their cars, on their insurance, when he’d be a new driver, and the distance is too much. All it would take is one serious accident and suddenly their rates would skyrocket.

Of course, “making it work” within a price limit would have to include all costs of driving like the car, insurance, fuel, maintenance, parking, etc. for any school where that is proposed. For a new driver, these costs are probably a lot more than he thinks they are.

The problem is also that OP gets to be the bad guy. The father should be part of that conversation. Or, take responsibility for it.

And I thought she said his grades were mostly decent, other than the classes cited.

Do we yet know the EFC? Sorry, if I missed that.

I don’t get it. Why can’t the OP just refuse to pay? If the husband is siding against her, why can’t she just tell him to pay out of his own pocket?

@DarkEclipse , the father is planning to take out huge loans which will affect OP’s future as well. I thought the parents are still together but the dad has left the child rearing to her and has always given the child what he wants. I could not make it 18 years raising a child without being on the same page. I’m not criticizing her. She seems to be the one thinking like an adult.

@OspreyCV22 I still don’t get it. If the father takes out loans, how is the OP affected? What if she refuses to have anything to do with it? All she has to do is say no. I’m sorry, but this is a bit confusing.

@DarkEclipse and @OspreyCV22 My husband and I are still together, so his money is also my money. I think my husband is afraid of my kids, that’s why he always take their side and give them what they want. Thank you guys for your comments and advice.

@guiltymom Thanks for clearing that up.