<p>Why are the voting lines so bad in Florida? Do they not have enough precincts? I’ve never had to wait more than 30 minutes to vote in LA County, even during the morning rush. It seems wrong to not try to do something to shorten the lines which would encourage more folks to vote.</p>
<p>I’d like to read about that fraudulent voter, too. Googling yielded nothing so far.</p>
<p>when everything but marriage isn’t the same as marriage:</p>
<p>When you are a parent and have one married kid and one who can’t get married - </p>
<p>When you are a young adult attending dozens of your friends’ weddings all over the country and sometimes overseas, but you can’t get married</p>
<p>Obviously there are also legal ramifications to not having your partner officially recognized by the government. I wonder if the IRS is going to do retroactive refunds for couples who have never been able to file together and take advantage of tax breaks.</p>
<p>"Still looking for the guy who “voted” over 70 times. I’m finding people who fraudulently registered people, but nothing about them actually voting. I think maybe voter registration is getting confused with actually voting. "
-Did you look for 2008 election? it was during 2008 election and also he was convicted, so look for conviction case. it is very easy, you can look specifically for 74 times. He voted 74 times for pack of cigarretes and he did not see anything wrong with it which tells me that he knew others doing the same but never got caught. That means that my vote was nothing as well as many others’ votes. As I said, talking about it is just moving air, nothing we can do. It happens on every election, it will happen tomorrow…</p>
<p>alh, yes, the emotional toll of not being able to marry the love of your life is huge. I simply used one legal aspect of the issue as an example.</p>
<p>As far as the tax breaks go, the math is not simple; for example, I calculated that we would have saved a bundle on our taxes if we were both “single”.</p>
<p>I found a case about a guy who registered 72 times in exchange for cigarettes. That’s as close as I can get, but nothing about anyone voting multiple times.</p>
<p>One of the main reasons the Florida lines are so long is because there are about 11 state constitution amendments on the ballot. They are lengthy and the ballot in Florida is several pages long. Some voters are taking up to an hour in voting booths reading the amendments…in addition to selecting individual candidates. Too, the number of days for early voting this election are fewer than previous election. Only one Sunday this election was open for early voting…previously two Sundays…early polling locations were not open yesterday. Officials could have helped by extending hours for early voting. Florida’s present governor refused to reconsider and open polls yesterday, unlike the last election when the previous governor extended hours special. Too, by state law, early voting can only be done at certain government buildings, unlike regular election day when polling will be done at churches, community centers, etc. All these things didn’t happen by accident; I and many others suspect the powers that be in Florida purposely orchestrated all this, and a bunch of other things, to suppress opposition voting. State officials should be making voting easier for voters, not harder. Many people saw the long lines and didn’t bother to vote or left the long lines before voting.</p>
<p>BB: one of my best friends gave up his successful business to follow his husband to a state where their marriage isn’t recognized. It is one of those once in a lifetime dream jobs. He can’t get spousal health insurance through his husband’s employer. He won’t get survivor’s pension benefits. His partner can’t claim him as a dependent for tax purposes. For them the tax consequences have been significant. If you and your husband (or my husband and I) decided that you were better off single and filing, you could divorce, still live together and take advantage of the tax code. My friends cannot take advantage of the tax code.</p>
<p>My kid is sweet and charming and dances with all the old ladies and young girls at all the weddings, but it is really taking its tole on him. I had no idea what it felt like to participate in ceremonies which are denied to you.</p>
<p>sorry if this all sounds b**y</p>
<p>why do individual states have the right to make different voting rules for a federal election?..It seems ridiculous that Ohio might hold everything up until Nov 17 when they count provisional ballets. State election , fine…but presidential election?</p>
<p>I guess some in Fl don’t think 8 days was long enough…jeez…People know the dates, if they want to vote early, then do so.</p>
<p>I can’t find anything on voting for cigarettes 74 times. </p>
<p>MiamiDAP, what was the name of the individual who was convicted? And what state was this in? I am very eager to learn more about this situation. If one guy could vote 74 times, it must be a very easy thing to vote “only” two or three times. I’d like to know how to do it!</p>
<p>Sorry, for countring one more, but I remembered 74 times, I found 73, ny bad here it is:
"The Plain Dealer reported that Freddie Johnson, 19, filled out 73 voter registration cards when offered cigarettes and money by ACORN workers. Johnson said he was mostly trying to help the workers out. They allegedly begged him to fill out new cards over and over again so they could keep their jobs. "
I thought that I am not good with Google, apparently, I am not the worst one. I though anybody could Google anything, yes, all info is there, but it depends if person actually want to see it … apparently not.</p>
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<p>They are showing up to vote early but the lines are as much as 8 hrs long and they can’t take an entire day off from work to vote. The lines were long in some areas in 2008 in Florida when they had 14 early voting days. The days were cut to 8 so you can imagine what that did to the lines.</p>
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<p>Yes, I found that but you insisted that he was convicted for voting 74 times. You do know the difference between registering to vote and voting, right? I doubt he even voted once.</p>
<p>Googling using the phrase “2008 vote more than 70 times cigarettes,” the closest I found was this:</p>
<p>“Ohio’s early voting laws allow voters to register and vote on the same day. This has given birth to even more voter fraud, including the voting of individuals who are not even residents of the state and ACORN-registered voters registering to vote multiple times (one admitted and subsequently testified to having registered 70 times or more for money and cigarettes given to him by ACORN).”</p>
<p>Nothing about a conviction and unclear to the reason/nature of the testimony. And this was on a website for a group that "began in January 2002 as a grassroots support for Alan Keyes’ MSNBC TV show “Alan Keyes Is Making Sense.” Over the years, the website has evolved into a significant Christian political vehicle … promoting the core issues of moral conservatism …</p>
<p>“With Dr. Keyes as Honorary Chairman, RA is a strong, independent voice for the causes that unite moral conservatives, and strives to be a beacon of truth at a time when our country is increasingly losing its way — morally, spiritually, and politically.”</p>
<p>So take it for what you will.</p>
<p>And then that same column has gotten picked up by other conservative websites and blogs.</p>
<p>I quit looking when I started to come across some really gross, offensive things.</p>
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<p>Filling out registration cards is not the same as voting. In Post #53, you said the person actually voted 74 times.</p>
<p>Crossposted with Cartera and Youdon’tsay</p>
<p>60% chance of rain in Florida tomorrow, election day, from a cold front coming into state. It’s going to be one big, gigantic mess in Florida election day with the long lines at polling stations.</p>
<p>I agree with RGE’s I also have this nagging feeling there will be a controversy or a dispute over the election</p>
<p>Election fraud is a problem. We know that illegal voting occurred in both the Al Franken and Christine Gregoire elections. It’s not something that should be taken lightly on either side.</p>
<p>I can’t imagine that there won’t be significant controversy over the provisional ballots in Ohio. I would much rather my preferred candidate lose tomorrow than live through another 2000 contest. Of course, my favorite outcome would be one in which my preferred candidate wins conclusively tomorrow night!</p>
<p>But whatever you all do to mark the event, please do vote, please be safe, and please don’t support the people urging violence if they aren’t happy with the outcome.</p>
<p>Gay marriage is on the ballot here in Maine, too. I volunteered for the campaign this summer, and I agreed to go in and do GOTV calling tomorrow morning. Last night there was an interfaith service at my church in support of it: loads of clergy from many groups, including Episcopalians, UCC, United Methodists, Lutherans, Reform Judaism, and of course UUs. Catholics were represented by members of a lay group: no priests.</p>
<p>I’ve gone to campaign parties when I was heavily involved. This year I’ll probably be watching by myself.</p>
<p>I’ll be setting up the polling location at 6 AM, should finish up by 9 PM, then have to drive the results to the district headquarters, so by 10 PM I’ll be home with my feet up watching TV with a cold Yuengling in hand, until there is a decision reported.</p>
<p>Oldest D was a freshman in college 4 years ago and was among the students celebrating in front of the White House. Her boyfriend is a member of the other party, so I’m not sure what they will do this year!</p>