<p>Sure CNI. NU doesn’t produce any of those. LOL.</p>
<p>sure, like I really said that. please read what’s being written and try to understand it.</p>
<p>Oh I understand completely. It’s the arrogance of the Duke followers that I find hard to understand. Perhaps you should peruse pizzagirl’s statement again.</p>
<p>You understand completely, so you’d be happy to show us where I point out in my post that I said that NU doesn’t produce any researchers or surgeons? Heck, I don’t even say that NU is a bad school. I even applied to NU man.</p>
<p>The point of my statement is to show that this argument has been built on a purely academic premise. We haven’t once mentioned institutions like Juilliard, a school which has produced thousands of the worlds’ most accomplished musicians. I don’t think anyone’s mentioned NYU or USC’s school of film, which have each served as alma maters to some of hollywoods’ great actors and directors. Look, I’m not gonna fight with you on this, but I’m just trying to point out that NU was not the best school to use. chill out</p>
<p>disregard what rjkofnovi says… he’s a umich student who is clearly anti-duke… he believes that duke students are arrogant b/c they have a lot of school pride and believe duke is one of the best schools in the nation (oh wait, it is…)… too bad he is a hypocrite, since in multiple posts he’s made, he implied that umich is on par with duke… well, shame on duke students for thinking our school is on par with some ivies (the funny part about it is that’s actually true)</p>
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…or we could just stick to the topic, which is Columbia. :rolleyes:</p>
<p>Duke is a great school. NU is a great school. Columbia is a great school. Why can’t we all just get along and stop comparing and bashing schools.</p>
<p>It is hilarious that certain people (pizzagirl) think people are boosting a school and putting it in a bad light, by simply saying Duke is above Michigan. Its the truth… I think the same thing exactly about you, when it comes to Michigan. You are boosting the schools incessantly and honestly you are making the school look bad. Also pizzagirl, try and learn that you don’t need to post 5 times in a row to simply add more posts to your name. One post can do it too. Furthermore there is nothing wrong with wanting to make money, Pizzagirl is a consultant so she clearly is not as “service oriented” as she tries to seem. If she actually followed her own advice and worked in Africa for Aids or in some other capacity maybe I would respect her opinions much more than I do now. Also the idea that someone can say one person posting anonymously on the CC forum is indicative of the Duke student body is either kidding or moronic…</p>
<p>thank you Bescraze… best post on this thread thus far</p>
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<p>Ditto. Why can’t we all just agree on this?</p>
<p>I agree 100%. I think Northwestern, Duke and Columbia are all equally great schools, if the OP is still reading this and wondering somehow. This thread was derailed because of DevilKnight’s idiocracy and the state school lovers who love to pounce on private school students whenever they can. Carry on.</p>
<p>As for the OP’s originally question.</p>
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<p>JHU, Duke, and Wash U are pretty much among the top of the bunch when it comes to being premed. Being a Hopkins premed myself, I must say it was voted USNews week 2008 “Hottest school for Premeds” so it definitely attracts premeds and those looking to go pre-professional.</p>
<p>Duke’s engineering department has gone through some amazing transformation over the past few years. Pratt’s endowment increased 10 folds from 20 million to 200 million and has increased its student body population by 30%. It is one of the most fastest growing engineering departments, and under the leadership of the former Dean Kristina Johnson (hot), Pratt has developed a name for itself in terms of engineering.</p>
<p>Hopkins engineering is very very strong as well, if not stronger than Pratt by USNews reports ranking though depending on which specific speciality your looking at, they may be the same.</p>
<p>With that said, JHU and Duke > WashU for Engineering.
JHU = Duke = Wash U for premed.</p>
<p>good post, phead… i agree</p>
<p>PA Michigan 4.5
PA Duke 4.4</p>
<p>They are peers by definition.</p>
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<p>I think a lot of you are very ignorant about the fact that medical school and residency serve as “levelers” and you can’t necessarily say that the guy who went to Harvard undergrad is any better of a surgeon than the guy who went to State Flagship undergrad. And <em>plenty</em> of academic doctors who are well known in a given field don’t necessarily have elite backgrounds.</p>
<p>lol. no don’t stop. seriously i love this.</p>
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<p>The shame is that you feel so compelled to point it out. Among the top 20 schools, no other school boosters feel so compelled to point it out and make distinctions between all these great, but different, schools. How many threads were there on how Duke > Cornell? That reflected so poorly on Duke boosters that they didn’t have the self-confidence to simply say “they’re both excellent, but different, and this is why I like Duke.”</p>
<p>The inability to distinguish between “this is why I personally prefer Duke” and “Duke is therefore unequivocally better than” is problematic.</p>
<p>Pizzagirl. They have to point it out because if any of these Duke posters got accepted at HYPSM, they wouldn’t have an inferiority complex that needed to be stroked.</p>
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You obviously haven’t run into many Wash U, Berkeley, or (sadly enough) Chicago posters. In their defense, these universities are frequently bashed for being “overrated” (an ambiguous term at best), so it comes as no surprise their students are a trifle defensive. The fierce Northwestern vs. Chicago thread a while back comes to mind.</p>
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I don’t really see how that adds to the debate, since it is clear that the OP was asking about Columbia and its peers. Are you implying that more HYPSM rejects choose Duke than Chicago, Columbia, or Brown? I find that difficult to believe.</p>
<p>pizzagirl,
The only other Top 20 school that catches anywhere near the flak that Duke does in this CC land would be Wash U. Sometimes perhaps the abuse is deserved, but Duke is a pretty great place and while, I know that I am in the minority here on CC, I consider it along with Stanford as providing the premier undergraduate experience in the USA. </p>
<p>Now, re your comment about insecure boosters needing to endlessly promote their school, may I suggest that you just move down the rankings to colleges ranked outside of the Top 20. This is where the professional promoters are found. LOL.</p>