<p>and is it any good after you’ve transfered?
<a href=“http://www.ptk.org/[/url]”>http://www.ptk.org/</a></p>
<p>basically, it’'ll do you NO good.
Don’t waste your $75.</p>
<p>Well, actually I know a few people at my CC that got scholarship offers from Tulane due to PTK…but, I guess it only matters if you wanna go to a school of Tulane’s caliber. :$</p>
<p>I heard that all it’s good for is the scholarships that are offered. But other than that, according to my counselor, its pretty much useless for transferring.</p>
<p>Just use it for the scholarships. There are schools ranked in the top 50 that have automatic transfer scholarships. Such as Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Washington University @ St. Louis. New York University also offers a scholarhip. </p>
<p>Of course it’s not a good EC if you don’t do anything. All you have to do is sign up and pay the fee. That’s not an EC. </p>
<p>I am the Vice President of Leadership at my college for Phi Theta Kappa. Get involved in your chapter and become elected as an officer. Then it’s a great EC; do more than sign up. It’s hard to pass up the significance of it, when so many great colleges offer scholarships for it. Ask yourself.</p>
<p>if your in some type of PTK office it will look good but, otherwise its no good</p>
<p>It does look good if you’re actually involved…which dictates that you’ll get good recommendations from your advisers. For the people that are saying that it does no good as an EC, you’re wrong. It is the Honors Society of the two year college…it’s like NHS of High School. I am the Vice-President of Service in my chapter, and I HIGHLY recommend you join if you plan on transfering to another university. If a college saw on your transcript that you graduated as a member of PTK, they would certainly be more impressed than without it…especially considering you have to have a 3.5 to join. PTK also provides you with different methods of increasing your ECs…so many good, quintessential things for students seeking good transfer opportunities.</p>
<p>Basically, don’t listen to the people that are saying you shouldn’t join lol. PTK will provide you with the tools not only to succeed academically, but also from the service and communication vantage points as well. What other club/organized group does that for you at the CC level?</p>
<p>Afterwards, as in when you’re at the senior college, you would look into joining Phi Beta Kappa…the Honor Society of the 4 year college.</p>
<p>I dunno, but for my school, when you join PTK, basically all you do is fulfill certain community service requirement every semester, and attend mandatory meeting with a 3.5 GPA minimum.</p>
<p>I think this is pretty pointless. I’m in college honors program for transfer students, and the only difference between PTK and the honors program I’m in is that you attend one additional meeting. So I dont think it’s worth the money. </p>
<p>In the COLLEGE honors program, I have to do extra projects in addition to 15 hours of communisty service fulfillment every semester. in PTK, you just have to do 15 hours of community service and attend meeting. Really, no point of anyone joining it. I really dont think it’s any smart to pay $45 just to get some recognition pins and ID card.
Sure you can get good letters of rec, but really, how much difference will a letter of rec make? Afterall, it’s all about GPA.</p>
<p>You can do community service on your own, or even continuous volunteering in hospital. That actually is better because it shows that you are doing those works not merely to fulfill the requirements for some club, but because you really want to do it to contribute to the community without anyone/any club forcing you to do so.</p>
<p>Besides, adcoms will know your gpa anyway. Joinining PTK isnt the only way to show that your gpa is high. That’s what transcripts are for.</p>
<p>Well, your school’s PTK chapter…sucks lol. I’m in the Honors Program at my school as well, and my school juxtaposes the two so that students can best benefit from both. As you said, there is no point in arguing whether or not you should join PTK…all I can say is that PTK is a reputable organization that colleges around the nation recognize. I could not fathom why someone would not join because there is an “extra” meeting. Anyone can put they volunteered somewhere on their transcript, but with PTK an adcom knows that the volunteer experience was organized, self-fulfililing (hopefully), and that you actually committed the task at hand.</p>
<p>I just think if you’re not apart of a Honor Society associated with your school then your overall transcript and resume looks significantly weaker…especially if you had the chance to join.</p>
<p>:steps off his defensive PTK podium:</p>
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<p>that wasn’t my point.
The biggest benefit that you’ll get from joining PTK is a good letters of rec., and guess what? Letters of Rec. ranks LAST in the list of “what’s the most important factor in admission”, and some schools don’t even look at them.</p>
<p>The rest are all just the RECOGNITION stuff that won’t matter what-so-ever in the process of transfer. It’s just good for self-satisfaction. Sure, you get a membership, get newsletter every now and then, get some pin and diploma, and maybe some seal. But none of those are actually helpful in getting admission for transfers.</p>
<p>You’ll feel good and proud for having a Golden Key Membership Pin. You can brag it to your friends and to your sons in the future, and you can hang your diploma on the wall for everyone to see. But in terms of admission… NAW.</p>
<p>Are you purposely overlooking the “Honor Society of the Two Year College” part? As I, as well as a few others, have said, the more you participate in the activities/endeavors your PTK chapter promotes, the better your ECs, transcripts and resumes look. I’m not even mentioning the potential scholarships available (of course depending on where you transfer to).</p>
<p>It’s nearly idiotic to pay dues of 60+ dollars and not do anything with the group anyway, no matter what society or organization you join. You reap what you sow…I guess :-P</p>
<p>Deeneaus, those scholarships are usually monopolized by those who took position in the service chpater, such as you, the president, and other officers.
Those who merely “participate in activities” w/o actually SERVING in the chapter will have very slim chance of actually obtaining one.</p>
<p>But really, instaed of joining a club to fulfill the EC, doing something ON YOU OWN is MUCH MORE recognized by teh adcom. Getting a job, internship, or SELF-DRIVEN communit service/volunteer are MUCH MUCH preferred than just joining a program and following the curriculum there. It shows that you know how to self-develop yourself and your sense of priority and responsibility.</p>
<p>So my advice is… unless you plan on actually SERVING in a position, joining any kind of club is totally pointless if you just plan on “being part of the membership”.</p>
<p>Damnit…I said I would stop arguing with you.</p>
<p>There is no clause that dictates you have to hold a “position” in PTK to receive a scholarship at a senior college. There is no “monopoly” set aside for the officers of chapters…Hell, colleges would not do that anyway because there are “go-getters” that perform admirably without wanting to take an active leadership role in the chapter because of work, children, you name it (they may even out-perform the officers). The recommendation letters provided by the chapter advisers will allow the adcoms at the universities to see that the potential transferee is actually worthy of the scholarship…therefore negating the need to be an officer.</p>
<p>Most transfer scholarships associated with PTK, in regards to direct transfers, are automatic anyway, as TehRahk already mentioned; there is a possibility to tack on more, however, as well as show involovement in the organization, if you actively participate in PTK.</p>
<p>I’m done for the night though…long day ahead tomorrow. Night mate.</p>
<p>G’nite, buddy.</p>
<p>P.S: You are wrong.</p>
<p>dhl3 wins this round</p>
<p>PTK is what you make of it. If you just join for the name, its not gonna help you much. If you take advantage of it, get office, go to national and international conferences, and get nomiated for the shcolarships then you have a much better shot.</p>
<p>I was offered an automatic scholarship to RPI, before I was elected VP. Of course there are better things you can do, such as doing a self driven volunteer fulfilling a leadership role in the organization. </p>
<p>The letter of recommendation is very important for the really good colleges. Of course GPA is #1, but letter of recommendation usually follows that tied with everything else. </p>
<p>Dhl3, have you joined PTK? I know your chapter may not be good, but you have a lot of misinformation in general and/or a personal agenda against PTK. </p>
<p>Besides it’s only $50-$70. It’s not that much money at all.</p>
<p>Yup…I’m so very wrong. </p>
<p>I hope you and Ang have fun in your state of disillusionment :). You should find out more about your subject before you begin to inundate your argument with misinformation.</p>
<p>To the OP: It’s up to you…you can take the crap load of information dhl3 has spewed or you can talk to an adviser. His chapter obviously sucks, or he woudln’t be so “dissatisfied” with how they conduct themselves. Sorry I derailed your thread into PTK advocacy rhetoric.</p>
<p>I’m a member PTK, I don’t its a bad thing but, I do think if you just pay your 50-7- dollars and don’t become active in PTK, it’s a waste of money. And since most people don’t become active in PTK, it’s a waste of time and money for the majority of people that join. I also think that they misrepresent how much PTK will help your chances when applying to schools.</p>