How good is UofM compared to other schools?

<p>Hey so I was thinking of applying to JHU, Duke, WashU, Dartmouth, Upenn, but the problem with these schools is that they are all out of state (I live in Michigan) so the tuition is kind of crazy ridiculous. I was wondering how good UofM (Ann Arbor) is compared to these schools. Everybody in my school goes to UofM so I kind of wanted to be diffrent and go somewhere else for once. But the other schools are matches/reaches for me and they're super expensive so I'm a little worried...</p>

<p>Michigan is a great school! If I lived in Michigan, I'd be more than happy to go there! Why don't you check out the UofM subforum and see why other CC'ers decided to go there? It's always smart to have a financial safety that you love, and you're just lucky enough to live in a state where your state flagship is very prestigious, has great academics, and should be reasonably affordable. Lucky you!</p>

<p>You don't know how good you have it. Most visitors to CC would give an arm or leg to have the preferred avenue to UMich that a top scholar who is in-state like you, has.</p>

<p>When I was ranking the schools that accepted me: UMich was above some Ivies I had applied to....</p>

<p>Wow that's awesome! Yeah, I'll check it out.</p>

<p>Depends on what you are looking for eagertolearn. As a university, Michigan is excellent of course. I personally chose it over two of the universities you mentioned in your OP. However, some people prefer a different atmosphere. From a cost point of view, if your folks are middle-lower income, private elites will give you excellent aid, so do not let their tuition rates discourage you.</p>

<p>I'm looking for something with an excellent music program as well as an excellent med program. I know UofM has both along with the some of the schools I mentioned above. Haha. I'm not from a middle-lower income family, but my parents are not willing to spend 50,000 dollars/year as they have another child to prepare for college as well.</p>

<p>Unless your parents are extremely wealthy($250,000+ combined income), you will get some, if not significant, amount of aid from Duke and Penn. I don't know much about the financial aid policies of WashU and JHU though.</p>

<p>If I were to rank these schools for premed...</p>

<ol>
<li>Duke/Wash U</li>
<li>Penn</li>
<li>JHU/Michigan</li>
</ol>

<p>I doubt I will get that aid from Duke. My friend got accepted there, and she got NO financial aid and she only has one working parent and a lot less money than my family has. I don't know about Upenn though..</p>

<p>Also, in-state students who apply EA to Michigan and have credentials to get into Duke or Penn usually get some sort of scholarship from Michigan. It is a pretty good bet Michigan will cost you under $20,000/year. Besides, if Music is your thing, Michigan is pretty awesome choice given that it has one of the nation's very best Music programs.</p>

<p>This said, I would still apply to some OOS private universities because you never know.</p>

<p>michigan is a great school but getting scholarships is tough. my friend was 3.8/4.0 (we dont weight gpa), 2330 sat, 33 act and he got no scholarship money. his FA wasnt very good though, even though he comes from a big family with one working parent that doesnt make a lot of money. he didnt have great stuff besides his grades and scores though.</p>

<p>^Was he in state? Also, Michigan is like obsessive over GPA. The people I see with scholarships typically have lower scores but higher GPAs.</p>

<p>If you are interested in music, why not also consider Northwestern? I chose NU over Michigan years ago due to personal and financial reasons, and I don't regret my decision. I also wanted a different atmosphere. I am currently a graduate student at Michigan.</p>

<p>NU has a great music program. Henry</a> and Leigh Bienen School of Music</p>

<p>Yeah, I have a 3.92 unweighted. I'm not worried about paying for Michigan or getting scholarships for Michigan. I'm worried about paying for out-of-state schools.</p>

<p>I don't particularly like Northwestern. Sorry. =(</p>

<p>"I don't particularly like Northwestern. Sorry. =( "</p>

<p>You go eagertolearn...you tell Tenisghs! hehe!</p>

<p>It's ok about not liking NU. tenisghs got it right for grad school. ;-)</p>

<p>hahalolk, yes he was in state.</p>

<p>^Interesing... that would confirm my theory that GPA plays a enormous role in scholarships and admissions for UM, relative to test scores. If your friend had a 4.0 GPA, I would bet he would have gotten a lot more money.</p>

<p>hahaha! Yeah most schools weigh transcript over scores. I didn't know Mich was gpa selective, though.</p>

<p>Are you looking to be a music performance major? Or just a general music BA?</p>

<p>If you're a serious musician, Michigan is a GREAT school. It has a very competitive audition process, however. You should also check to make sure if you're allowed to double major in music and something else because the School of Music is separate from the other schools, I believe. Other schools strong in academics and music performance are USC, Northwestern, Rice, Columbia/Juilliard, and Harvard/NEC.</p>

<p>If you just want a general music BA, any of your schools are probably fine. If you don't need a music degree but still want to continue music at a high level, Yale is a great place to go :)</p>

<p>See the Music forum for more info, they're very helpful.</p>

<p>I know. Amy porter is extremely selective when choosing her flutists. Haha. I'm looking into a music performance major, and I'm planning on double majoring. Yale. I could never get into yale. There's too many people better than me in the acadamia world.</p>