How good of liberal arts at WUSTL???-need to make a choice

<p>I was rejected by Uchicago, the good thing is I got in WUSTL. I applied other Dartmouth, Columbia, Upenn, I believe that the chance to the Ivies is very slim. However I got a very good FA package from Case Western. SO I need to think about How good of liberal arts at WUSTL? then choose the school between Case and WUSTL.
please help me to make your comments.
I intend to study pre-law or business.</p>

<p>Liberal arts education at Washington University in St. Louis is excellent. Virtually all departments are deep and yet still have strong undergraduate teaching. There is great flexibility across schools as well as a generally flexible approach to study in different areas.
The Olin Bschool is an outstanding undergraduate program (13th by recent BusinessWeek rank). Yet, you could be ‘in’ the Bschool and take numerous courses in A&S. Don’t know much about Case.</p>

<p>WUSTL only offers me $6000 a year, Case offers me $28000 a year which is very genious, it is tough decision, if I go Case, then I can save almost 100k for my future pro-school. really bother me.</p>

<p>Neither is particularly known for liberal arts, if you go by department rankings. If you are into business, I think you know which one makes more biz-sense. I’d save the 100k which could come in handy when you need it to finance your law school.</p>

<p>Olin is an excellent business school. It’s ranked 13, and the students get off on fridays (which is awesome). You should read the course descriptions for both schools and decide which one has more courses that you are interested in. Tough call tho.</p>

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<p>WUSTL is not $100,000 more than Case Western for anything! If you go to Case and do good, you will get into any graduate school just as you would from WUSTL.</p>

<p>With all due respect, there’s no comparison between Washington University and Case WR. Wash U is one of the top 10-12 universities in the country, and a degree from it rings bells. CWR is a perfectly ok but not special place with students and faculty who aren’t nearly as top-of-the-line.</p>

<p>I don’t think WUStL is worth $100,000 more than Case Western, regardless.</p>

<p>bccdhppy, I think the main issue is what you plan to major in. Both Case and Washu have very strong science and math programs. However the humanities at case are not very strong.</p>

<p>Also I talked to a former Case student, as I am also trying to decide between the two schools, He said that case is not in a nice area of Cleveland. If you have visited washU you probably know that it is bordered by a huge park on one side and wealthy neighborhoods on the other. </p>

<p>Good luck making this decision sometimes it seems almost impossible to decide. Also remember you can get a good education anywhere, you just have to work harder if your school isn’t quite as strong.</p>

<p>It is difficult for Case to compare favorably to WashU in beauty of campus/setting, but Case is not a dump. University Circle is the area around CWRU, and while it is not as large or inviting as Forest Park (OK, not by a long shot. Forest Park is spectacular.), it does have a world class art museum, botanical gardens, natural history museum, etc. The neighborhood is more urban/gritty than WashU’s and that accounts for much of the difference.</p>

<p>Case for sure. You will be kicking yourself if you go the extra 88 grand in debt for your undergrad degree. Especially considering the “prestige” difference between Case and WashU is pretty minimal.</p>

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<p>Most departments at WashU aren’t “top-of-the-line” either; please consult USN department rankings and see for yourself. I also think you have an inflated view of the actual differences. It’s simply not worth 100k more.</p>

<p>Sam Lee, last time I saw a post by you, you were trying to downplay WashU. And here you are again
do you have a vendetta against our school?</p>

<p>As a WashU student, I know the quality of the liberal arts education at WashU. The undergraduate quality is superb–professors are very accessible and challenging, the classes cover fascinating and a wide range of topics, and a large majority of students partake in humanities research. Your peers will also be of top caliber. One pre-law student I know works on a project restoring historical texts; she was also valedictorian of her high school, in the IB program, and gotten a perfect score on the ACT. She went to Oxford to study abroad. This is just one example of a WashU student in the liberal arts.</p>

<p>Case Western is the way to go. Wash U is a very overrated school, not woth sacrifing 100k plus in the bank when you graduate.</p>

<p>^^ Same issue with Objective-- he or she has tried to downplay WashU at one point. Geez what is with you and Sam Lee? Objective, all you write is that WashU is not worth it, yet you offer no reasons. This makes me think you wrote the post out of an emotional vendetta and am not trying to offer helpful advice to the OP.</p>

<p>Anyways, WashU is far from overrated. If the OP researched the offerings at both schools and the undergraduate quality between WashU and Case, he or she will find a distinction between WashU and Case. For example, the WashU undergraduate business school is regarded more highly. However, if money is a serious issue for the OP, by all means take the money. Alternatively, I know people who have called the financial aid office to let them know another school had offered them money, and were given a good package by the WashU FA office! So OP, try giving the WashU FA office a call!</p>

<p>zenith602,</p>

<p>Please don’t attack me just because I said your school isn’t worth 100k more than Case Western. I adviced someone to pick Syracuse over my school due to cost difference less than 2 weeks ago and Case Western is more highly regarded than Syarcuse. You seem to be focusing on selling your school without addressing OP’s concern. How do you know Case Western doesn’t offer good classes? Did you see the OP is interested in going to law school? Do you know how much law school will cost in addition? Perhaps you don’t really care if someone is going broke just to go to your school. Perhaps you have parents financing your education and don’t realize what 100K really means.</p>

<p>Hi Sam Lee,</p>

<p>I am not attacking you. I am simply asking why you are always posting on threads involving WashU and downplaying the school. Please do not become aggressive towards me by saying untruths. For example, how am I not helping the OP? If you’ve read my post carefully, notice that I advised him/her to give the FA office at WashU a call–by no means am I looking at money issues slightly. I also addressed his/her concern about undergraduate business (he/she is interested in business or law) I hope I have been more helpful to the prospective undergraduates on this forum than you assert me to be; in fact, I have been answering tons and tons questions all week for freshmen via both threads and PMs. It seems as if you are putting on an offensive front, demeaning my existence on this forum while I am trying and have been trying to be helpful to prospective freshmen. I read lots of posts on CC and try to be a positive and helpful guide around here; I have also read several of your posts before. Again, it seems to me that on numerous occasions you have interjected on a WashU thread, only to make assertions about how anyone who loves WashU and is describing its academic and social riches must be a ‘■■■■■.’ </p>

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<p>OP, I can connect you with one of my pre-law or pre-business friends here at WashU and have him or her answer any questions you might have. I think this might be the most helpful and accurate way for you to get to know the WashU program!</p>

<p>No one is disputing the fact that WashU is a wonderful school. But anyone who thinks that an undergrad degree from WUSTL is worth 100k more than an undergrad degree from Case Western frankly isn’t qualified to attend any business school. </p>

<p>If the scholarships for both universities were the same, I think we would all certianly advise the OP to pick WashU’s liberal arts program over Case Western’s.</p>

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<p>“always”? i have posted like
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5 times involving washU perhaps in the past 2 months? </p>

<p>the real reason i was posting here is because of people like you who sell their schools way too much despite the huge cost difference and i felt compelled to offer a more balanced view so OP wouldn’t just listen to your sales pitch and get himself/herself into a huge debt.</p>

<p>if the cost is about the same, washu is the clear choice. everybody already knows that so the logical conclusion of your promotional is you were trying to persuade the OP to forget about the cost difference. maybe you aren’t even aware of this and think you were being helpful but really, what you did was pretty irresponsible. you haven’t had to earn your own living; it’s so easy for you to think 100K isn’t all that much. where is OP going to get money for law school? where do you get the idea that CC is full of people from wealthy families?</p>

<p>you mentioned that someone was going to Oxford and said this was “just one example”, giving the impression that every WashU grad would get a great job and get into a top grad school. so your message was: “don’t worry about 100k; it’s so worth it and WashU degree would take care of that”. yeah, right!</p>