How hard is it for an out of stater?

<p>Well according to what I read, applying to a UC from out of state is tough(I go to a CC in my state). It’s like you have a better shot at getting into an ivy league school before a UC(my prefered choices are Ucla or berkley). It also doesn’t help that both schools get a ton of application but accept about 22%. So can some of you guys give your opinion on this.</p>

<p>Background: African American
Gpa:4.2
Sat-I have to take them</p>

<p>Out of staters have a very difficult time due to the constitution of the UC system, which essentially limits transfers to in state. However, OOS transfers are certainly possible. </p>

<p>Some things you’ll need to know: UC GPA is always calculated on a 4.0 scale. So you can’t have a 4.2 GPA. Also, UC admissions does not consider SAT scores or high school GPA, so you don’t need to take the SAT. What is your intended major?</p>

<p>UCLA says:</p>

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<p>Admit rate for in-state applicants: 26.63%
Admit rate for out of state applicants: 9.88%</p>

<p>Harder, but not impossible.</p>

<p>the fact that you are black will help you tremendously</p>

<p>^i don’t know how to react </p>

<p>Sent from my HTC HD2 using CC App</p>

<p>Well I’m in school at my CC for business management. I still have a long time until i get 60 units though(most likely 2013 before I can apply).It’s just slightly discouraging looking at the out of state transfer numbers. At the same time, I like the odds of being an underdog and the challenge.</p>

<p>Also to the above person. Proposition 209 pretty much eliminates the fact that I’m African American.</p>

<p>So should I just transfer to a California CC to raise my odds?</p>

<p>Yes sounds good. You need to make sure that your classes transfer</p>

<p>Sent from my HTC HD2 using CC App</p>

<p>I had that plan in my head for a few months now. It seems like the ideal thing to do since it raises my odds and gets me ready for a UC school. The main problem that comes up though is I would need my own house/apartment. It isn’t exactly cheap for either and rent is way higher in la (and NYC) than it is here. </p>

<p>I think I will go to my CC for another year and consider transferring to an California CC. The main goal is to have enough money to live if I do transfer out to a CCC.</p>

<p>The problem is that simply moving to California and going to a California CC will not qualify you for in-state student status. I’m not exactly sure what it entails but I recall that you must be independent while living in California for one or two years, meaning you must find work in California and have your parents no longer file you as a dependent on their tax returns and some other legal mumbo-jumbo.</p>

<p>Here is a topic that offers more details on the subject:</p>

<p><a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/1094700-out-state-community-college-uc.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/uc-transfers/1094700-out-state-community-college-uc.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>So…I’m basically stuck here. I intended to move to California to actually live there and not just for academics. The job isn’t an issue since I already looked into it. So yet another hurdle has been thrown in my way. Looks as if I’ll have to stick with my 9% odds.</p>

<p>I did know I wouldn’t be a in-state student since I’m not a resident of the state. I highly doubt that I’m still a dependent with my parent with being unemployed for like 3 years. I pay for and do things myself financially however I have another person who might have me as an dependent(grandmother)</p>

<p>It seems like the UC’s try to admit underrepresented minorities. Since you have a high GPA I feel you’ll have a decent shot if you complete ALL of the requirements, including pre-reqs for your major.</p>

<p>Which schools are you interested in and which majors?</p>

<p>Well my school choices are(not real order): Ucla, Usc, UC Berkley,Nyu, georgetown, University of Arizona, Asu, and some considerations to some florida schools.</p>

<p>I still prefer to go to go to California or New York City(cost of living is murder). I like the fact that it’s hard to get into the schools but at the same time I want to raise my odds even higher. Also I can be a ‘underrepresented minority’ with a high gpa and still not get in. Proposition 209 will keep those schools(mainly Ucla and Berkley) from having a truly diverse campus like 16 years ago. I’m just another applicant to them and to me I look at it as I’ll be another reject statistic. I just want to maximize my odds and try to avoid being a negative statistic.</p>

<p>Even if you support yourself, you are considered a dependent until the age of 24 as far as the fafsa is concerned. So even if you moved out here and worked for a year etc. residency would be according to where your parents live until you turn 24. I’m not sure how old you are so it might not matter but people seem to forget this.</p>

<p>Keep in mind that UCLA admits by major. It’s also extremely important to complete all pre-reqs for your major.</p>

<p>If you really want to get into UCLA you’re going to have to learn exactly what they’re looking for. If you can submit a complete applicaiton you’ll have a decent shot at getting in!</p>

<p>Look here for average GPA’s and admit % for each major <a href=“http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/Adm_tr/Tr_Prof10_mjr.htm[/url]”>http://www.admissions.ucla.edu/prospect/Adm_tr/Tr_Prof10_mjr.htm&lt;/a&gt;
If you applied as a Philosophy, Anthropology, Math-Economics major, complete all pre-reqs, GE’s, 4.0 GPA, and you’re an underrepresented minority I say you have a really good chance despite being out-of-state. If you applied with an impacted major like Business Economics or Communication Studies then I say very slim chance.</p>

<p>There’s also been some reports lately the University of California has been more willing to admit more out-of-state students in recent years due to the higher costs they must pay to go to UC:</p>

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<p>So there’s some good news for your situation…</p>

<p>Question: Can you change majors at a UC school?</p>

<p>The reason I ask is because technically, business management falls under business school. If I try to apply as a business student, I have a smaller chance.</p>

<p>To poserbruin: I figured that out a long time ago.Seeing as how a college is a business first(many people seem to not know this) I figured they would try to get extra money from out of staters.</p>

<p>It depens on the school and the major. Also, keep in mind that most UC’s don’t offer a degree in Business Management.</p>

<p>Well I seen business management on the ucla site. I guess my major would be business. The problem with that is the number of people who apply for that field. That’s why I asked if it’s possible to change majors at a UC school.</p>

<p>I’m worried about your transfer success if you think UCLA offers an undergraduate degree in Business Management. Good luck with that!</p>