<p>Also, isn’t it “randomly excluded”? Bumping everyone after a certain time is not random – it is picking a time/number and saying everyone lower than that is bumped. That’s not random.
–K9Leader</p>
<p>^^No. Time slots for the lottery are distributed randomly, so they can take the very last of the rising Sophomores and Juniors (in terms of lotter time slots) and bump all of them. That is random. There’s no need to randomly assign lottery time slots and then randomly bump. Plus it allows people a bit of extra time since some people will know they will likely be bumped before the bump process actually happens.</p>
<p>are transfer students guaranteed housing their first semester in? I was currently accepted as a transfer and looking at deciding between uva and william & mary. I just dont want to be thrown in a new place and not know that i have a place to live relatively close to campus. I wont know my way around and kinda worried.</p>
<p>Also, this is a little off topic, but how is the social scene? I live in a small town where we can go pretty much anywhere and throw down. I dont party a lot, but sometimes i liek to throw back a few beers with friends. We can go down to the lake in back yard and let loose. Where are the parties located generally?</p>
<p>There are spots reserved for transfer students. I am not sure how many. You can call resident life to find out or maybe one of the transfer students has more info.</p>
<p>actually, according to Res Life (this year), those transfer spots will go to bumped students first and then once everyone who wants to be reinstated is, they’ll open the rest of the rooms to transfers.</p>
<p>“Bumped students are housed before former students, transfer students (with the exception of designated transfer spaces), and currently enrolled students who did not pay a housing deposit”</p>
<p>This is a quote from the ResLife page that leads me to believe that there are spaces designated for transfers…again, I am not sure how many are reserved, but according their page there are some. I imagine those reserved spaces would be first come first serve…</p>
<p>atrmom, I hope your housing issues were resolved. Having a roommate bumped has to stink…</p>
<p>I’ve been on the phone with the Res Life office a couple of times a week for about two weeks and they’ve been pretty specific that they usually use the summer to find spaces for transfer students, but this year they’ll be spending the summer getting bumped students housed before transfers. Getting reinstated is going pretty slow this year, there are 122 students still on the list waiting for housing and tomorrow’s the last day.</p>
<p>Not all rising sophomores from Wednesday afternoon on got bumped. Daughter’s time is this morning. However Ludwell is the only place left with room’s and she was telling me sine it’s only her and her roommate, their selection will get kicked out. Have to admit, this housing issue, lottery, bump process is one of the biggest pitfalls of William and Mary. Thus far, she’s loved every aspect of school. Can’t imagine having one more year to worry of housing.</p>
<p>Aside from the bumping process, here’s a positive note. My daughter and friend were away fall semester, both juniors. Res Life had indicated that they wouldn’t know until Nov or Dec. if spots would be available. I was very nervous about the housing when she returned for spring semester. Not only did she get housing but her requested roommate also. Ended up in one of the new dorms.</p>
<p>Several of DD’s friends were bumped, including one girl she wanted to live with next year. Luckily, they were able to get an overcrowd room.</p>
<p>Try going somewhere else where you get kicked off campus after freshman year.</p>
<p>W&M is exceptionally nice in this regard. I know my son was told that South Carolina on campus was extremely difficult to get.</p>
<p>As a reminder for those who say this is a big failure of William and Mary: for all of those who are having problems, there are 3500-4000 more students who go through the housing process with absolutely no problems. You don’t hear about them, you just hear about the problems.</p>
<p>cap… overcrowd should be good. I lived in a triple overcrowd my soph year (3 ppl in a big 2 person room) in Madison (bryan complex)</p>
<p>… i’m surprised Ludwell is the only thing left. People really don’t know what their missing… or don’t think a 5 minute walk is worth your own kitchen, bathroom, dining room, and living room (mine currently has 3 couches).</p>
<p>well…if I accept william & mary’s offer accepting me as a transfer student for Fall of 2008, I will not be guaranteed housing. Matter of fact, a admission rep told me that almost all transfer students dont get on-campus housing. I dont mean to sound ungrateful, but this kind of bothers me. I really reallly dont want to drive a few miles to campus everyday…i kinda like living right where my classes are. I am not famlilar with Williamsburg at all either - so ill be thrown into a new place without the peace of mind that I have a good place to live. The admissions rep told me, " we try to help them find off-campus housing." William & Mary have been so great with helping me out and there school seems top notch, but this is BIG issue for me becuase I have gone to a community college and am unfamiliar with this whole process. Any thoughts?</p>
<p>I won’t lie. I’d be a bit nervous, too but most times my fears are unfounded. Instead of going by admissions I would attempt to speak directly to someone in res life. Ask them for the history of transfers and housing. How many transfers usually coming in, how many want housing and how many don’t get it. As with anything they will say, “Well, it varies from year to year and we can’t predict…” OK, fine but show me the numbers. Keep asking until you get your answers. I love William and Mary but I do think that living off campus as a sophomore? transfer may not give you the best experience.</p>
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<p>I don’t disagree, but I don’t really “blame” W&M for it - there’s a bit of a confluence of factors, here. One is the Jamestown dorms - these new dorms are keeping seniors who, in previous years, would’ve lived off-campus, choosing to stay on-campus. </p>
<p>Add to this the rather hostile attitude the city has towards students who dare stray from the college boundaries, like keeping and enforcing the 3-person rule in rental housing, and actions like turning down zoning applications for student-oriented rental property developments - (like those decrepit roach motels on Richmond Road are <em>so</em> in keeping with community values.) Odd how they’ll happily take the money the college brings, (in fact, without the College, Williamsburg would’ve fallen into ruin long ago), yet have such a poor attitude towards its students. I think it’s safe to say the College was there long before any of those residents were … </p>
<p>Ultimately, it becomes a logistics problem - they want to fill every bed and every seat in class, anything less is a waste of resources. Ultimately, the vast majority do get housed - but there’s a lot of queuing and bumping until every finds a place. </p>
<p>In a way, I suppose having constrained housing is a good thing - if a 1,000 bed dorm opened tomorrow, I’d bet the college would admit 1,000 more students. There goes those small classes …</p>
<p>Geez, it was much worse in my day, and is much, much worse at 75% of other state universities. VT for one, almost everyone lives off campus at some point.</p>
<p>This wouldn’t be such a big deal if the off-campus housing environment were more hospitable to students. The three-person rule is ridiculous (not to start this debate all over again, but it severely limits the off-campus housing options available to students). As a student living off campus now, I can tell you that I greatly prefer it to living on campus. Living conditions are much better. I just wish there were more affordable, student-friendly places to live closer to campus (like there would be at many other schools). Rent is steep when it can’t be split between more than 3 people, and being a car ride away from campus can feel too remote.</p>
<p>While W&M’s on-campus housing system may not be the best and may not be the worst, it’s the lack of off-campus options that brings to the forefront the failures of the on-campus housing system.</p>
<p>javabytes87’s got it in one. It’s the lack of affordable housing and the fact the community really doesn’t want to have students living there.</p>
<p>ercmilla,</p>
<p>I was aware that you were planning to go to UVa if you get accepted but don’t get discouraged because of W & M problem with on-campus housing for transfer students.
It is a worse situation with UVa transfers trying to get on-campus housing due to the size of the school. Imagine 20,000 students at UVa trying to get housing compared to W & M 5,000 students getting on and off campus housing.</p>