How hard is it to transfer to wharton? as a soph.

<p>I applied to Upenn my senior year in high school, but got rejected. I finished with a cumulative GPA of 3.8 increasing significantly every year, also got a 4.4 my senior year first semester. I have good ecs and 29 ACT/ 1980 SAT. I am planning on going to VIllanova for a year and then trying to transfer, I am looking to major in business, what gpa would I need to transfer? </p>

<p>Looking to transfer soph. year so after one year at villanova</p>

<p>29- ACT
1980 SAT 650-math, CR 680-writing
ECs
Worked at a restaurant for 8 months during junior year
internship at financial company
varsity golf- 4 years, captain, mvp, lots of achievements-not recruited tho
service- over 100 hours at local golf camp
Tutoring elementary kids for past two years
some clubs here and there and symphonic band and cornell summer college(took bus. course)
some other ECs- national spanish honor society
ECs are alright probably get more involved at college</p>

<p>I would like to point out I will work very hard and am shooting for a 4 at NOva at worst 3.8+? DO I even have a chance???</p>

<p>not to burst your bubble or anything but you have extremely low standardized test scores. im not sure if they ask for those if you do a transfer, but those won't even get you into the college of arts and sciences. </p>

<p>you seem to have put alot of effort in golf. unfortunately, i see that you weren't recruited. again, colleges especially the substantial ones look for students that absolutely excels in what they do. it seems that although you are good, youre not good enough.</p>

<p>also, work experience and internships are only the "icing" on the cake. if your cake is not very good, than the icing (usually) won't compensate for the rest. and the cake would of course be: 1) SAT/ACT 2) GPA 3) Essays, extracurriculars.</p>

<p>now, if you were to load up your class schedule and then make a 4.0 your first year a villanova, that might mitigate your HS resume/app. if you are adamant about getting into penn, i suggest applying to the college instead. its easier. </p>

<p>but as of right now, your chances seem close to none. sorry:(</p>

<p>I understand my test scores are low, maybe I should retake them. however golf is one of the dedicated Ecs I did all throughout highschool. and to your point i may not be good enough to be recruited D1 but I am still gonna play club and could probably walk on D1 its just too much of a time commitment. Anyways I appreciate the honest opinion does anyone know if transfers have to send their test scores and anybody else have opinions</p>

<p>if you want to bank on gold then i suggest you do make that time commitment if you are serious. you really need to shine. and i think thats your easiest way out. </p>

<p>and YES, definitely retake it <strong><em>if you can</em></strong>. although i dont think so. im to lazy to check collegeboard. but definitely retake all those tests, preferably multiple times.</p>

<p>You could get into Penn but Wharton will be tough with that math score. Did you apply to Penn? About 25% of those accepted to Penn had lower SAT's than you did. </p>

<p>P.S. Once you see what the girls look like at Penn, you will probably decide not to transfer.</p>

<p>@SJUHawk:</p>

<p>you forget that those 25% include legacies, URMS, recruited athletes/musicians etc or other hooks. </p>

<p>Plus, it's harder to get in as a transfer.</p>

<p>Not all of those 25% fall into one of those categories. We are not talking about transferring to Harvard or MIT - this is Penn! There are plenty of kids with his stats and lower at Penn. He would probably have been accepted if he applied as a liberal arts major.</p>

<p>What do you mean it isn't Harvard or MIT? It isn't any less rigorous at Penn then at Harvard or MIT ESPECIALLY since he's trying to transfer into Wharton. Sure there are kids with his stats at Penn, but they absolutely needed to shine. It's the same at HYPSM, there are kids with low stats, but they blew the charts off with something. I'm sure he could get into Harvard as a liberal arts major too >.></p>

<p>@TS - if you want to transfer over to Penn, you have to make your undergraduate years amazing. Like your stats have to be top. Its nice because you get a fairly fresh start; Penn won't be looking at your high school stats with as much weight as your college stats. You just have to make sure you are strong throughout your first two years at Villanova as well as be an active part of the community.</p>

<p>Come on. Penn is a decent school but it isn't nearly as selective as the top schools. Penn has lower admissions stats than many schools, not just Harvard, Yale, MIT, Stanford, Princeton, etc. Penn students have lower scores than places like Duke, University of Chicago, Northwestern, Washington University, etc., etc. </p>

<p>Penn also has nearly 10,000 undergrads. It can easily absorb a few transfer students. Wharton will be tough but a transfer to another of Penn's colleges should be no problem at all.</p>

<p>I am set on business and know wharton will be tough but I also feel like I can show my passion for business. I have done two internships one in finance and one in B.it. Also took a college bus. course among other things. also will jjoin clubs. hopefully i can give it a shot</p>

<p>@SJUHawk-</p>

<p>You're exactly right, "this is Penn!":</p>

<p>National</a> Universities Rankings - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report</p>

<p>Best</a> Undergraduate Business Programs - Best Colleges - Education - US News and World Report</p>

<p>Penn consistently ranks among the 10 toughest schools to get into, according to the Princeton Review
The Atlantic also ranked Penn among the 10 most selective schools in the country.</p>

<p>At the undergraduate level, Wharton, Penn's business school, and Penn's nursing school have maintained their #1, 2 or 3 rankings since U.S. News began reviewing such programs</p>

<p>Among its professional schools, the schools of Design, business, communication, dentistry, medicine, nursing, and veterinary medicine rank in the top 5 nationally </p>

<p>check your facts</p>