how long for admissions/honors decision

<p>i got my admissions application in and i was wondering how long it will take for the decision to show up on the website. i also plan to submit my honors application for engineering soon and was wondering how long it generally takes for a decision to come back on that.</p>

<p>If you are in the top 10% of your graduating class, you should hear w/i two weeks from the time that your application package is complete.</p>

<p>I don't know about engineering honors, but I imagine that they will compare your GPA and SAT's to the profile of previous years' engineering honors applicants. If your GPA and SAT's rank in the top 25% of the profile, you may hear back from them fairly quickly. If not, they may defer a decision to review other factors such as the classes your have taken, recommendations, EC's. etc and how you compare to other engineering honors applicants this year.</p>

<p>ok thanks.</p>

<p>If you have no rank, or isn't in the top 10%; how long will it take?</p>


<p>Three years ago, our son graduated from a non-ranking Texas high school and applied to UT and Plan II soon after the application period began. He was tentatively accepted by UT in November and Plan II around December 10, but he was a NMF and I think that helped. His official UT acceptance didn't arrive until the following Spring but the November letter promised he would be admitted. I think this is done to prevent students from taking ED elsewhere because they hadn't heard from UT.</p>

<p>Thanks for the reply.</p>


<p>I'm not sure my earlier response was helpful. Let me try again:</p>

<p>In order to get into an honors program at UT, you must apply to UT and to the honors program. You receive separate responses to your applications - one from the honors program and one from UT. The response dates vary. If you are a non-ranking student, UT may not respond until the Spring. Honors programs usually have a specific date for a response - check the appropriate website for the deadlines for the honors program to which you applied.</p>

<p>I know a student who applied to the pharmacy program and was accepted but got a rejection letter from UT. He contacted the pharmacy program. They made sure his status was changed but it took 2 agonizing (for him) weeks. UT relies on the honors programs and majors to provide a list of the students they've accepted so UT can admit them, too, but things happen. </p>

<p>Overall, my limited experience is that most non-ranking students get a response from the honors program before getting a response from UT.</p>

<p>I'm not interested in the honors program because, well, i'm not that great.</p>

<p>I just started making 4.0 GPAs last year (11th grade year). I'm just nervous because the nursing program is very competitive....</p>

<p>Btw, your first response was helpful; however, can you post the stats of your son (only if you want to).</p>


<p>It sounds like you have an excellent goal - a career that should be personally satisfying and for which there is a healthy (no pun intended) demand. I'm sure you've thought of this but you should emphasize your recent excellent academic achievements, especially the 4.0 as a junior. You sound like a young person who is getting more serious about education and that's something colleges care about. Asking questions is another good sign. Smart people know they can learn from others.</p>

<p>I don't mind sharing what I remember about our son's numbers but it's been 3+ years and I'm not 100% certain these are correct: His SAT was 1500-1520 (NMF) with a 4.0 GPA. He took 3 SAT IIs (maybe math, history, and physics ?) and made 750-800 on each. I think he received AP credit in english, history, physics, and math (5s) and government (4). I thought his essays were above average but I'm his parent so of course I thought that. His ECs were limited, primarily varsity sports.</p>

<p>Our son's best friend also attended a non-ranking high school. He was not accepted to UT but he applied to a competitive UT undergrad program in the sciences. I think he might have been accepted if he had applied to liberal arts but that's just a guess. I don't know the exact stats but they were approximately 1150 SAT, 3.0-3.2 GPA, no SAT IIs, and I'm not sure about AP classes but I don't think he had any.</p>

<p>EDIT: The SATs were from 3-4 years ago so they are based on the old 1600 SAT.</p>

<p>Thanks for the response.</p>

<p>Yes, I've been asking a beaucoup of questions! I have bugged my admissions counselor so many times [she actually switched me to another one (good thing or bad thing)] because the questions I need aren't located on the website, such as, the admittance rate into medical school, the number of graduates recieving job offers, and the average time required for a student to graduate. </p>

<p>Your son has AMAZING stats! </p>

I don't know the exact stats but they were approximately 1150 SAT, 3.0-3.2 GPA, no SAT IIs, and I'm not sure about AP classes but I don't think he had any.


<p>This is what i'm talkin' about! lol... my stats are simliar, but I would predict my gpa to be around 3.6 or above. </p>

<p>I have a few hooks such as, URM, first generation, etc; but I don't think UT cares.</p>

<p>UT cares about those things. :)</p>


<p>Anxiousmom is correct that UT will care you are an URM and first generation, and if you are in-state you might also qualify for a scholarship as a first generation student (<a href=""&gt;;/a>. For students that do not qualify for admission under the top 10% law, UT uses the Academic Index and the Personal Achievement Index. Here is an explanation of each Index:</p>

<p>The Academic Index (AI):
High School Record:
- Class rank
- Completion of UT required high school curriculum
- Extent to which students exceed the UT required units
- SAT/ACT score</p>

<p>The Personal Achievement Index (PAI):
- Scores on two essays
- Leadership
- Extracurricular Activities
- Awards/honors
- Work experience
- Service to school or community
- Special circumstances:
Socio-economic status of family
Single parent home
Language spoken at home
Family responsibilities
Socio-economic status of school attended
Average SAT/ACT of school attended in relation to student's own SAT/ACT
Race/Ethnicity (beginning with fall 2005)</p>

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<p>Just2Fitz, the answers to some of the questions that you asked your admissions counselor are not available because the necessary resources have not been allocated to do it and there are too many variables involved to give a one word or one number answer.</p>

<p>For example, how do you track and include people who apply to med schools or accepts jobs after they have graduated? How long do you track graduates for inclusion in the statistics? Three months? Six months? One year? How do you get all graduates to report their activity? How do you verify the integrity of their responses? </p>

<p>As for average time required for a student to graduate, that can depend on what a student's major is and how many AP/CLEP credits they have. Architecture is going to take longer than a B.A in English. Also, if you average a high achieving student w/ 40 hours of AP/CLEP credit w/ a student who may require remedial work, the answer is probably four years but what does that tell you?</p>

<p>It's not good to bug your admisisons counselor. You need them to go to bat for you when the adcom is evaluating applicants. There are too many applicants that are begging to get into UT who could care less about the answers to the questions that you are asking. If there are questions that are really going to make a difference in your college decision making process, ask the department head in the field that your want to major in.</p>

<p>Thanks for the responses! </p>

<p>Also, M1817, I used those questions as examples. Sorry if I confused anyone!</p>

<p>Does anyone know how many points are given on each index, and how many points are needed to gain admission?</p>

<p>Frankly, I qualify for everything on "The Personal Achievement Index (PAI):" and I qualify for a few on the other. </p>

<p>Thanks a lot! SOOOOOOO HELPFUL!!!!!</p>


<p>When admissions committees use tools like the AI and especially the PAI (and most schools use similar indexes), it is called holistic admissions. It means the admissions committee tries to look at the "whole" person. Only people that sit on the admissions committees know exactly what they do and what their goals are, and the process probably varies from college to college and year to year. However, I think it's safe to say this: At least 2-3 or more committee members read most applications and make a decision based on their perception of the whole person. I'm not sure whether they grade you in the sense that you get 10 points for this or 20 points for that. In a recent US Supreme Court case on college admissions, one of the items the Supreme Court found objectionable was that the college (in that case, the University of Michigan) assigned extra points for being an URM. The Court held UMich couldn't do that anymore. (BTW, this is nothing against UMich because many colleges did that, too. It was one of the tools they used to increase URM admissions.)</p>

<p>Based on reading CC and other sources, here's my best guess as to what an admissions committee at someplace like UT does: First, they screen for the clear admits based on top 10% and very high AIs, and they probably summarize and rank the remaining applications according to the AI index. Second, the remaining applications - applicants from unranked schools, OOS, and in-state who aren't in the top 10% - are reviewed by the admissions committee members. At that point, at least one and probably several admissions committee members will read and take notes regarding the application. The admissions committee will meet on a regular basis and discuss the applicants in order to rank them for admissions purposes. </p>

<p>I suspect successful applicants impress the admissions committee in several ways - that they are well-rounded using the PAI factors, that they want to attend UT, and that their past performance and activities suggest they won't waste the chance to go to college. In other words, I think the admissions committee discusses the applicants and decides based on how they feel about each applicant and in light of what the goals of the college are that year, e.g., they may want more OOS students, more Native Americans, etc. Of course, I could be wrong. With colleges like UT that have so many applications, they may well employ a grading system that assigns points to certain factors.</p>

<p>The best advice I've heard came from a CC poster who suggested that each applicant include a complete resume but be sure to emphasize 2 things so the applicant would be memorable to the admissions committee. As I recall, the commenter's daughter wanted to study Russian in college but also liked to dance. Her application clearly showed her passion for those subjects because it included she had been an exchange student in Russia and had studied dance (ballet, jazz, etc.) since she was a young child. She was successful in gaining admission to several reach colleges and they thought it helped that she could be easily remembered as the "Russia dancer" applicant. </p>

<p>The point is not that you have an unusual interest but that something about your application can be easily summarized to reflect how passionate you are in pursuing your interests. The concept is that if you have worked hard in the past to accomplish your goals (and it sounds to me like you have, Fitz), then you will probably also do that at UT. From UT's standpoint, the worst result is to admit a student who comes to play in college and won't take advantage of all the resources UT offers. It's like cooking a big Thanksgiving meal and inviting lots of people but no one eats. What a waste.</p>

<p>WOW, thanks so much for that encouraging speech! </p>

<p>I will try and address everything you mentioned, but give me time because I have to finish some homework. lol</p>