How much does Penn use rank in decisions?

<p>What if someone is ranked 10/53? Is there even any point of applying at all?</p>

A lot of people on CC keep telling me that you only get into Ivys if you're ranked 1or 2.
But I can't believe that for some reason, especially since people have different reasons for rank.
And some schools go out of their way to actually give you a rank #, whilst others only give a vague %. When it comes to %, I'm sure Penn accepts people in the top 20%.</p>

<p>IMO, this totally depends on the school you are coming out of...Is it a Penn feeder school? Students that have been accepted in the past; what has been their rank????</p>

<p>spiralcloud: find out these answers..if you are coming out of a prestigious private school that Penn "loves" you could be ranked 53 and be admitted.......if you get my drift.....</p>

<p>I think if you are applying for UPenn college of arts and sciences or for Engineering the rank does not matter as much. However, the selection process for Wharton or any of the dual-degree programs is a lot more rigorous and I would believe that rank would play a bigger role. Rank is less important than the holistic picture of the student (especially in schools with very challenging curriculums)</p>

<p>well my school is not a Penn feeder school: its in AZ, there's no AP/IB, but its challenging enough (college-prep)
its stats are good:
Median Act score; 27
Median SAT score: 1200 (CR + Math)
usually 6-9 national merit finalists/commended
low-income area</p>

<p>well, the only thing I'm worried about is if I'm an automatic reject because my class rank is low, btw I'm thinking wharton </p>

<p>i think I can bring my rank up a few places (max. 6/53) before college application time though</p>

<p>I'll have around a 3.85 GPA (B's in freshman bio, poetry, and music--but all A's in sophomore year)</p>

<p>I haven't started junior year yet, but my college counselor is holding a class session thing in a couple days and we're supposed to research some "reach" schools for "homework"--I'm just worried that wharton is too extreme of a reach to even bother</p>


<p>Yes, you can still be admitted with a 10/53...but you'll probably need a hook cause SATs and GPA alone wont make up for that rank.</p>

<p>Penn loves rank. When I visited for the engineering admitted students weekend, the admissions director told me about what they do on the first day of orientation for engineering students. They put them all in one room, and ask all the valedictorians to move to one side of the room and all the salutatorians to move to the other side of the room. Guess what? Supposedly barely anybody was left in the middle of the room.</p>

<p>well yeah, they have a lot of vals and sals there, but it could just be because #1s and #2s are more likely to have high SATs and other academic stuff than other kids... I was just wondering if rank makes a difference to the application by itself (aka is rank a big enough factor for a person to be rejected right away)</p>

<p>Lol, now I feel like ****, being 51/354 with a 4.0 since Sophomore year, and the only problem that my rank is lower is because I'm missing 3 credits because my school in Australia didn't transfer my second semester of freshmen year (hence I'm missing 3 credits as opposed to everyone else).
If Penn is really shallow and superficial about rank, I'm screwed T_T</p>

<p>spiralcloud- where do you go to school? if you're comfortable naming it, you can. i went to high school in az and am pretty familiar with the local schools. in my opinion, applying from an az non-feeder school is a plus; penn thinks we're underprivileged ;-)</p>

<p>if I said the name of my school, it would be wayy to obvious who I am...but my school is not a feeder school</p>

<p>Haha, what, are you a state-renowned high-schooler? ;-) lol no worries i respect that, better than the life i now lead where everyone knows who i am by connecting some dots</p>

<p>no, but there's people from my school on this board...and I don't really want them to know who I am</p>

<p>I'd say it uses it quite a bit..</p>