<p>All of these claims could be completely wrong, so I’m hoping for some honest answers:</p>
<p>I’ve heard a lot of people say that Tufts doesn’t get very much respect as a school and that a degree from Tufts may not be worth that much…I’ve heard that career services and networking at Tufts are REALLY poor. I’m not looking to have a high-paying job handed to me right when I get my diploma- I expect to work very hard. I’ve just heard that the Tufts advisors aren’t helpful in guiding you towards a career. My informatoin could be wrong (it’s an amalgamation of opinions I’ve heard from random people, posters on CC, college rankings that rate tufts low, etc.) so I hope someone can be a voice of reason. I want to be certain that tufts is the right choice. </p>
<p>If you want something solid to argue against, this article was the final push that prompted me to post this message: <a href=“http://www.tuftsdaily.com/media/storage/paper856/news/2004/10/07/Features/Students.Question.Quality.Of.Tufts.Career.Search.Assistance-1488957.shtml?norewrite200608251713&sourcedomain=www.tuftsdaily.com[/url]”>http://www.tuftsdaily.com/media/storage/paper856/news/2004/10/07/Features/Students.Question.Quality.Of.Tufts.Career.Search.Assistance-1488957.shtml?norewrite200608251713&sourcedomain=www.tuftsdaily.com</a></p>
<p>Thank you very much in advance.</p>
<p>I think it’s important that you bring this up.</p>
<p>In terms of what it’s worth? Approximately $170,000. </p>
<p>Ultimately it depends on what field you’re going into. From a medical standpoint the premed program is well recognized within academia. From a research perspective it’s also well known in terms of undergraduate quality of education. I don’t know much about the corporate world though. One person who used to post on the Tufts forums was at the MIT Sloan school of Business and was well acquainted by wall street. He probably can address the criticisms better than any of us can (as we’re not yet alumni, and the alumni that do frequent this board haven’t included many business people).</p>
<p>Also note that this article was written in '04. Times have changed - I hope.</p>
<p>Career Services at Tufts is not excellent, but it’s not bad. It’s good for careers in international relations-related fields as well as medical, psychology, engineering, and other scientific fields because we’re known for those programs at the undergraduate and graduate levels. </p>
<p>To be honest, I think that the only thing we somewhat lack in, is a direct recruiting route with big Wall Street firms like Goldman & Sachs, JP Morgan Chase, Morgan Stanley, etc. They usually only hire at the larger Ivies (Harvard, Yale, Penn) and schools like Stanford that have big pre-business programs. Though please note, however that Jamie Dimon, CEO of JP Morgan is a Tufts alum! So while you might not meet an on-campus recruiter, you can still applyf or internships and jobs at these types of comapnies and it’s very likely you’ll get hired. I know lots of Tufts grads who have done so.</p>
<p>but Tufts also has no business program, which may explain some of that.</p>
<p>However, it appears that these investment banking firms like to hire engineers - apparently they like people with a problem-solving mentality.</p>
<p>Priceless. 
At least in my opinion.</p>
<p>It really depends on what you want out of career services. </p>
<p>The degree holds more weight than you think it does - I learned that after graduation.</p>
<p>how did you learn that after graduation?<br>
just curious</p>
<p>Trip - I’m a rising senior but have already begun applying for jobs, interviewing, etc. and I’ve always gotten a good response from people, “You go to Tufts, that’s a great school!” And people who’ve interviewed me are Ivy and Ivy-comparable (like Tufts) graduates. I did a very prestigious paid internship in New York City last summer that 300 kids apply to and they only took 5. Two from Harvard, two from Yale, and yours truly. And I did not feel (nor was I!) any less adequate, believe you me. Are you an incoming frosh?</p>
<p>When I moved 700 miles away, and nearly everyone who asked where I went to school said, “Wow, Tufts! You must be really smart. That’s such a good school,” or “Oh, you’re one of those out-there smart people - you went to Tufts.” I grew up in Massachusetts. I’ve always known that Tufts is a good college. What I didn’t realize is how much people are impressed by it when I mention it - and many of these people are professors, who are hyper-intelligent.</p>
<p>Thanks for all of the great comments. I always knew Tufts was a great school, but I just needed to be certain that others would recognize it too because I’d like to get a job right out of college.</p>
<p>Yeah honestly I feel career services isn’t that great. However, on the other hand, I don’t think most people make enough use of the resources they have available.</p>
<p>Be prepared to work your butt off if you go here. If you don’t graduate at the top of your class, you will have a difficult time getting a job or getting into a top grad school. If you intend to work in a city like NYC, then you are definitely facing an uphill battle because the school is not that prestigious.</p>
<p>Smart Guy,</p>
<p>Do you go to Tufts? Do you know what you wrote above from personal experience or are you just guessing and trying to put other schools down as you have done on CC to other schools (Wesleyan, WashU, Duke, etc.)? Whoever you are, your inferiority or superiority complex doesn’t make it seem like you’re as smart a guy as you seem to think you are. In fact, Bitter Guy might work better for you.</p>
<p>Also, I think that most well-informed people would agree that top students who are highly motivated and have worked hard, coming from any school – including some tiny liberal arts schools in Mississippi no one has ever heard of – will have a better shot of getting a job than someone who cruised through Princeton or Yale with average grades and superficial extracurriculars. (George W. Bush-types notwithstanding.) Your education is what you make out of it. And while being at a top-ranked school, surrounded by high-achieving students and world-renowned professors helps, there are brilliant kids (and faculty!) at most schools, whether their institutions are ranked in the top 50 or top 500.</p>
<p>LB</p>
<p>LB,
I don’t see how my comments can be interpreted as negative. I am a hs senior from Cali but I know of many people who attend Tufts and various schools. My comments are based on what I’ve heard from them.<br>
Do you really think someone with an A average from Mississippi College will get the job instead of a B student from Yale???<br>
I am trying to be honest. Unfortunately, the truth hurts sometimes.</p>
<p>So you’re 17. That explains why your comments are completely based on hearsay or on those made by kids not much older than you. I don’t feel you’re qualified to make these kinds of comments until a) you’ve gotten into college and b) been in college for a few years OR, even better, graduated or are about to graduate and are applying to jobs.</p>
<p>My comment about making the most of your education is not to the extreme that you put it. An average grade is a C, and I do believe a person from a little school in the South with an A average and a great extracurricular resume would have a better chance of getting a good job than a person with a C from an Ivy. In fact, you should ask three of my friends who graduated in the last 2 years with C averages from Penn, Yale, and Harvard. They’re living at home and/or off their parents, and still looking for jobs. Don’t get me wrong, they’re smart kids, but they didn’t take advantage of their time as undergraduates and prospective employers took note.</p>
<p>Agree with LolaBelle. </p>
<p>Smart Guy - please at least go to college before you make such judgments. As an alum who has worked and attended law school, I can personally refute your statements. The Tufts degree helped me (and all my engineering friends) a lot in the Massachusetts engineering field - and working on the 128 Technology Corridor is nothing to sneeze at. I know that the Tufts name helped me in applying to law schools and it helps me when I look for jobs. People know that I got a great education and automatically assume that I’m very intelligent. </p>
<p>If you are down on the school, DON’T APPLY. Go to Berkeley or UCLA or Hastings, save yourself the money, and be happy because you have no idea what you are missing. </p>
<p>Incidentally, where in Cali do you live?</p>
<p>You seem to make so many assumptions. I am actually 16–I skipped a grade. I would question the quality of your education. Ariesathena, did you graduate from law school? If so, I don’t think lawyers are trained to assume facts that aren’t specified. Where in my post did I mention I was going to law school? I live in the Bay Area and Hastings is a law school and doesn’t have an undergraduate college. I seemed to have touched a nerve with you people.</p>
<p>Wow, your age really does show. 16, 17, little difference. Ariesathena did not assume you were going to law school, she just was speaking of her own personal success in applying for law schools after having received a BA/BS from Tufts. Assumptions are something you should not criticize seeing you’re the 16-year-old from California who said that Tufts grads have a hard time getting employed. Just stop posting about things you know nothing about.</p>
<p>Thanks, Lolabelle.</p>
<p>Pretty much summed it up. I was discussing my personal experiences - and the experiences of my friends. You can swagger about and “question the quality of my education,” but it’s hard to argue with the As I’ve gotten in law school, the journal that I was on, the moot court, the research with profs - in short, compiling a stunning resume. You don’t have any business saying that I’m “uneducated” until you’ve actually gone through the same things and done better than I have. </p>
<p>Why are you even LOOKING at Tufts? Or hanging around the Tufts forum? You hate the school. You think that the grads are idiots. So leave. Don’t apply - save yourself the money. </p>
<p>I would suggest that you, despite your youth, might want to take a critical reading course. There are many fine state universities in California which would be good for you undergrad. (My knowledge of them derives mostly from my law school search, which is why, aside from CC, most of the schools that I am familiar with have law schools attached. I was unaware that Hastings is like NYLU or Brooklyn.) They are cheaper than Tufts. Considering that you think so little of the Tufts education, go there and save yourself money. </p>
<p>I asked where you live for a very simple reason: to determine if I could get you for an interviewee. I’m an alumna interviewer for Tufts.</p>
<p>Pardon the lack of patience, but I’m tired of having dumb-butt kids trash my alma mater. Employers respect it. Grad schools respect it. Random people that I meet say things like, “Wow, you went there - you’re one of those super-smart people.” Someone once offered me a PhD position when I was 20 because of the work I had done. My top-tier law school has a slew of Tufts grads. </p>
<p>Tufts: top 20 happiest students. Kids who love it. Speakers like Stephen Hawking, Madeline Albright, Bill Clinton, Al Gore, George HW Bush, Colin Powell - all during my four years! Smallest of the Research I schools. My dad was driving to work one morning and heard about my advisor’s groundbreaking work on AM radio. (He thought, “Hey, my daughter had coffee with him last week.”) A few of my professors have students out to dinner every semester. I took a course at Harvard over the summer and the prof, who had taught there for 40 years, said, “Tufts has an excellent Classics department.” </p>
<p>Accolades from professors at other schools, grad school profs, law profs, employers, and the students. It sometimes hits me how amazing it is to have Tufts as my alma mater. </p>
<p>…yet some snot-nosed 16-year-old thinks that he:
- knows all about the school and it’s crap;
- that the grads are morons; and
- still insists on hanging around the Tufts forum.</p>
<p>I think that a lot of schools are overrated and a waste of money. I don’t spend my time (although I do spend a lot of time on CC) trashing them. The only thing I’ve done is to refer prospective * law students* to US News and their debt & median income tables, but that’s to help them know what their life will be like. I have better things to do with my time than trash schools of which I know nothing about.</p>
<p>Very well said 
Also, which journal did you work on?</p>
<p>By the way – Let’s see what I have to choose from this very day in terms of events: </p>
<ul>
<li>Lecture by Danish Government minister (darn those classes that overlap into it!)</li>
<li><p>Intro meetings for:</p>
<ul>
<li>Global awareness groups</li>
<li>Monty Python</li>
<li>Umbrella volunteer group</li>
<li>Listening to live political speeches. </li>
</ul></li>
<li><p>So many things to go to, so little time in one day! :D</p></li>
</ul>