how to get rid of AP scores form Transcripts?

[philip54]

<p>Unfortunately my high school includes AP (and all other standardized) test scores on transcripts.
is there any (legal) way to have them removed?</p>

[An0maly]

<p>Contact your guidance counselor/principal. If they disagree, then you’re out of luck mate.</p>

[dignified1]

<p>My Ds high school does the same thing. Kind of a tricky situation. Even if the principal agrees to take your scores off of the transcripts, the university will notice that you have had them removed since other kids from your school will have the scores listed.</p>

[mathstarftw]

<p>So wait, are your scores actually terrible or are you just getting paranoid?</p>

[philip54]

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the university will notice that you have had them removed

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<p>I don’t think the university would even know that have taken AP tests.</p>

[xrCalico23]

<p>*is there any (legal) way to have them removed? *</p>

<p>Definitely. Approach your guidance counselor about it, and usually a parent’s signature is all that is needed to remove AP scores from your transcript.</p>

[philip54]

<p>do you guys know of any legal definition of transcript? </p>

<p>If I could show my principal that based on that legal definition,transcripts doesn’t need to contain AP scores, then maybe I could persuade him to take them out.</p>

[philip54]

<p>:)</p>

<p>I found something:</p>

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WAC 392-415-030</p>

<p>Definition — Standardized high school transcript.</p>

<p>As used in this chapter, “standardized high school transcript” shall mean the standardized content specified in WAC 392-415-070. Such transcript usually is completed by the student’s graduation from the twelfth grade but may extend for some students through the school year in which the student becomes twenty-one years of age.

[WAC</a> 392-415-030: Definition ? Standardized high school transcript.](<a href=“Chapter 392-415 WAC:”>WAC 392-415-030:)</p>

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[WAC</a> 392-415-070: Mandatory high school transcript contents ? Items ? Timelines.](<a href=“Chapter 392-415 WAC:”>WAC 392-415-070:)</p>

<p>however this seems to be of Washington state’s legislature. I was looking for a federal or California state definition.</p>

<p>Mandatory high school transcript contents — Items — Timelines.</p>

<p>(1)(a) The standardized high school transcript shall contain only the information listed in subsection (2) of this section in order to meet the statutory requirements under RCW 28A.230.125 for a statewide standardized transcript.</p>

<pre><code> (b) Any other information the district or school may desire to include may be stapled to the transcript or otherwise provided with the transcript. Information that is not listed below shall not be included on the state standardized transcript:

(2)(a) Authorized and required transcript information effective now:

(i) The student’s legal name (last name, first name, and middle name(s) or middle initial(s)), and other or former names used;

(ii) The name(s) of parent(s) or guardian(s);

(iii) The student’s birthdate (mm/dd/yyyy);

(iv) The student’s school district identification number (if applicable);

(v) The school name, address, phone number, and name of the school district issuing the transcript;

(vi) A list of previous schools attended where credit was attempted (school name, city, state, and month and year of entrance and exit);

(vii) The student’s academic history for all high school level courses attempted, including courses taken under RCW 28A.230.090(4) and including those courses where a student has withdrawn, and listed by report period for the grade level (month and year), course code and description, marks/grades earned as defined in WAC 392-415-050 (a mark/grade of “W” will be used to indicate a withdrawal from a course), credits attempted and earned as defined in WAC 392-415-040, grade point average as defined in WAC 392-415-055, and a report period and cumulative summary of the student’s high school level academic history.

(viii) Credits attempted for courses taken more than once to improve a grade/mark may count only once toward the number of credits required for graduation, except that credits attempted for courses taken more than once to improve a grade may count toward the number of credits required for graduation on the condition that the letter grades earned for all attempts are included in the calculation of the student’s grade point average. For the purpose of this subsection, districts and schools shall not convert letter grades to grades/marks not used in the grade point average calculation.

(b) Authorized and required additional transcript information in effect for students who first entered ninth grade in the 2002-03 school year. The following courses, for which college credit can be earned, shall be designated on the transcript with the designation coding indicated. Courses completed and credits earned through running start shall be noted with an “R” designation. Courses completed and credits earned through advanced placement shall be noted with an “A” designation. Courses completed and credits earned through college in the high school shall be noted with a “C” designation. Courses completed and credits earned through an international baccalaureate program shall be noted with an “I” designation. Courses completed which earn college credit through techprep and/or the corresponding credits or certification earned shall be noted with a “T” designation. Courses that meet or satisfy higher education coordinating board core course requirements shall be noted with a “B” designation. Courses completed and credits earned through an honors option shall be noted with an “H” designation.

(c) Authorized and required additional transcript information in effect beginning with students who first entered ninth grade in the 2004-05 school year:

(i) Notation that the high school and beyond plan graduation requirement was met or not met by the student;

(ii) Notation that the culminating project graduation requirement was met or not met by the student; and

(iii) If applicable, notation that the certificate of academic achievement graduation requirement was met or not met by the student; and

(iv) If applicable, notation that the certificate of individual achievement graduation requirement was met or not met by the student.

(3) Each issuance of the transcript shall include a report date (mm/dd/yyyy), graduation date (noting month and year), end of transcript record (signifying no more authorized data), office of superintendent of public instruction (OSPI) transcript form version number, and page number (‘x’ of ‘y’).

(4) The signature of the authorized school official (name, title, and date) and seal of the district, if available. The signature of the authorized school official may be affixed electronically, subject to a written district policy that addresses signature security and assures that the authorized school official acknowledges, in writing, that affixing their signature electronically to the transcript is a legal and binding action.

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<p>[WAC</a> 392-415-070: Mandatory high school transcript contents.](<a href=“Chapter 392-415 WAC:”>WAC 392-415-070:)</p>

<p>I don’t see anything about standardized test in these descriptions.
however this seems to be from Washington State’s legislation. I was looking for a federal or California State’s definition.</p>

[An0maly]

<p>^ Instead of trying to file a lawsuit, just ask your guidance counselor. It’s the path of least resistance :)</p>

[philip54]

<p>I sent an Email to my school district on this matter. their cold answer was:</p>

<p>“The Standardized Test Scores are a permanent part of your academic record and cannot be removed from the transcript.” </p>

<p>well then how hundreds of other schools don’t include standardized test scores on their transcripts?!</p>

<p>what do you guys think I should do?</p>

[wkndwarrior25]

<p>Handle this the American Way.</p>

<p>Sue 'em.</p>

[EliteUHopeful]

<p>Well, since your school district plainly won’t let you remove them, then I doubt that there’s much you can do. You could try replying with the reason why you want your scores removed, but it might not work. Try to think of the positive aspects of this: if standardized test scores are on your transcript, then you won’t have to spend money sending score reports. Some colleges say that if your scores are on your transcript, then they’ll regard it as an actual score report.</p>

[1253729]

<p>I would now start to go the legal way or hint that you will if you meet further resistance. At this point, your parents (who do support you in this right?) should really start getting involved. I know it sucks because you feel you are mature enough to handle this yourself, but the fact is as adults and as your parents they have a more authoritative position as well as a more compelling legal interest.</p>

<p>I’d have your parents request on your behalf that those scores be removed. Make sure you do everything from now on in writing as well. And I would throw up the argument that those scores are from Collegeboard and/or ETS and that you took the test. Ergo they have no connection whatsoever with your high school transcript. Since they are essentially your educational records and the school had no part in grading/scoring the tests, I would argue that the records belong solely to you and your parents as you are under 18. Therefore they would be inappropriate in a HS record without your [parent’s] consent. Following this argument, I would have your parents request in writing that the school remove these scores from your high school records. I would make clear that both you and your parents do NOT consent to the school keeping them in your HS record and that you feel that if they are kept in your HS record your educational privacy rights would be irreparably violated by the school. Make sure you appeal this all they way up too. So if your administrator says no, go to the Principal, then the Superintendent, then the Board of Education, and so on… If they still don’t back off and you (aka your parents) won’t file a lawsuit, I would, as a “last stand” of sorts, explicitly NOT give the school to release your standardized test scores from College Board, ETS, and ACT to any third party including but not limited to colleges and businesses. (Make sure its in writing and your parents sign it along with you!) Per the Family Education Rights and Privacy Act also known as Buckley’s Amendment, I think it would be very legally risky for your school to then go and release this information. They would expose themselves to a lot of legal liability in my opinion and again, in my opinion, any sane school/school district would back down. Make sure your parents at this stage point out the legal aspects of releasing those records as well.</p>

<p>Disclaimer: I am currently just a rising senior in high school and have no legal experience or education of any sorts. Everything I have said in my post is not meant to be taken as legal advice. You should consult a lawyer for legal advice of any sort.</p>

<p>And let this be a lesson to all other high schoolers. Don’t just send your scores to your school. Make sure they give you a right to withhold the scores from your transcript. If they don’t, well then, don’t send any scores to them. To not have your SAT scores sent, call CB before you take your first SAT. To not have your AP scores sent, don’t bubble in your school’s CEEB code on your AP multiple choice answer sheets. If you want, you can bubble in the code for home schoolers on your AP tests. And the ACT lets you choose if you want scores sent to your school when you register for an ACT online.</p>

[1253729]

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@EliteUHopeful

…if standardized test scores are on your transcript, then you won’t have to spend money sending score reports. Some colleges say that if your scores are on your transcript, then they’ll regard it as an actual score report.

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<p>At least at most schools in the US, you still have to “officially” send your scores even if they appear on a transcript. So you still have to pay College Board and/or ACT. Note this doesn’t apply to AP scores which you self-report on a college app. No separate confirmation is required (not even on a transcript) for AP scores.</p>

[softaswater]

<p>Several colleges I’ve visited in the past have said that AP scores don’t really matter when they review you. It’s good if you scored all 5’s on your APs, but a 2 or a 3 won’t negatively affect you that much in the admissions process. Colleges really only use your AP scores to decide your class placement.</p>

[philip54]

<p>I believe based on the following document from College Board, the case would be closed!

A note about maintaining student privacy and the confidentiality of AP scores </p>

<p>Only students have the right to forward their AP scores to colleges and universities. Therefore, schools should use caution in affixing AP score labels to transcripts or other records that will be sent to these institutions. Affixing score labels to transcripts can result in a violation of students’ rights and opens the door to a potential lawsuit. To avoid this possibility, the AP Program strongly suggests that schools institute one of the following procedures:
• Affix the score label to the back of the transcript and copy only the front of the transcript when sending it to colleges.
• Have students sign a release permitting the school to put the score label on the front of the transcript. Keep the signed releases with students’ files.</p>

<p>“Reports and Services for Schools.” Educators: Education Professionals – Test Dates to Annual Forum – College Board. Web. 13 Aug. 2010. <a href=“AP Score Reports – AP Central | College Board”>Higher Education Professionals | College Board.

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<p>:)
thanks everyone (special thanks to 1253729 for his thorough explanation)</p>

[1253729]

<p>^Great find right there! I knew it existed, but completely forgot about it when I was typing up my post yesterday. Let us know how everything turns out.</p>

[NYJ3TSFAN]

<p>Im confused. Would sending AP scores of 3 negatively affect my application?</p>

[jimmy202]

<p>i would like to know as well</p>

[philip54]

<p>NYJ3TSFAN;</p>

<p>for competitive colleges (such as Ivy’s) yes. A score of 3 definitely won’t have a positive effect.</p>