How to mix up York U and NYU...

<p>… as my own classmates always seem to do? </p>

<p>While York University (in Toronto) and NYU are big universities, student body-wise, when asked by classmates where I’m applying for graduate school, I tell them that I applied, among other schools, at York U. But then they proceed to talk about New York University (or less commonly, University of York, which is a British university) only to explain to them why I’d never apply at NYU. In their minds, NYU is the same as York U for physics at the graduate level, while it’s markedly different IMO.</p>

<p>If I decided not to apply at Tufts because my parents (who don’t have the slightest clue concerning graduate school in physics) didn’t let me apply to any grad school for physics in the US, even if I got the assurance that each and every grad school I was applying to in the US was fully funded at the PhD level, then I can imagine NYU being out of the window.</p>

<p>cool story bro</p>

<p>But how good is NYU for physics anyway?</p>

<p>Ranked in the top 76-100 in the world for natural sciences by ARWU. Neither York U nor University of York make it into the top 200. </p>

<p>Ranked in the top 51-100 in the world for physics by QS World University Rankings. Neither York U nor University of York make it into the top 200.</p>

<p>We are from Toronto and you can’t compare York University to NYU @ All. My son goes to NYU. You pay to go to NYU for more than just the education you pay for the contacts…which don’t exist @ York University.</p>

<p>Sorry I’m not sure what you are trying to say.</p>

<p>I can’t seem to find any information pertaining to funding for NYU physics PhD students although even physics MSc students are fully funded at York (~$1,400/month after tuition bills, since, unlike Tufts PhDs, York U graduate physics students don’t get tuition remission) so maybe I might consider NYU once I get a MSc from some Canadian grad school… provided the funding is sufficient to live in New York City (Greenwich Village most likely)</p>

<p>NYU usually provides full funding + living expenses to all accepted students for PhD programs. You also do not need a masters to go for a PhD.</p>

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<li><p>Providing full funding + living expenses can amount to quite a lot of money since Greenwich Village (I assume Greenwich Village is where I’d be going to live 5+ years as a PhD at NYU) quite expensive to live in; I asked the graduate coordinator what that actually means.</p></li>
<li><p>I may not need a MSc to apply at NYU at the PhD level, but since I have no research experience I may as well go to a MSc in a Canadian grad school first. Canadian MSc programs are fully funded and transparent enough about how much funding a student is getting for one to budget graduate school with, plus a lot more space is given to research than in an American MSc thesis program.</p></li>
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<li><p>NYU is a very wealthy school and as such can afford to be very generous to is graduate students. Additionally, you can also find fellowships open to NYU Physics PhD students here: [Graduate</a> Fellowships Programs | Physics | NYU](<a href=“Department of Physics”>Department of Physics). Typical awards for most departments (as far as I am aware) are full tuition plus $20,000-$30,000 per year for your living expenses, in exchange you will have to teach classes or lead recitation sections.</p></li>
<li><p>US PhD programs often award masters degrees en-route and you don’t need previous research experience, such as a masters degree, in order to apply. PhD programs in the US require coursework prior to starting you research, and they’ll prepare you to do research. If you’re planning on getting a PhD, then there isn’t really much of a point taking an extra year to get a masters. If you entered a masters program first and then enrolled in NYU, you would have to re-sit every exam you wanted to count towards your course requirements to satisfy the PhD course requirements; that doesn’t seem terribly fun to me to take the same exams twice.</p></li>
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<p>I may not need previous research experience to apply but rejection is highly likely if I don’t have any; I feel like most people who are admitted (and attending) NYU at the PhD level, have at least one REU under their belts, sometimes more. Just like most PhD programs at schools of NYU’s caliber and above.</p>

<p>It’s better to apply and be rejected than do a masters merely because you thought you might be rejected. If you’re concerned about not having research experience, then apply to both PhD and Masters programs and see what happens. </p>

<p>I would suggest asking questions about possibility of getting into a PhD program in the graduate school forum. </p>

<p>From personal experience, I never had an REU, but none of my philosophy professors thought I would have any problems getting into GSAS at NYU for Philosophy.</p>

<p>Philosophy is another can of worms compared to physics. What they say on the graduate school forum is that, in STEM disciplines, even one REU, with the appropriate letter(s) of recommendation (most people with REUs get at least one rec from people they worked with during their REUs), can make a difference, and for schools at NYU’s level and above, enough of a difference to decide between acceptance and rejection. </p>

<p>Tufts, however, is a school where I might have had a chance even without a REU. My recommenders are “go big or go home” types when it comes to writing recs, so I’m not worried about recs.</p>