How to not pay OOS fees

<p>Hello all,
I have lived in TX my whole life with the exception of my 4 years in the Air Force. After the military I attended college at Austin Community College in Austin, Tx. I moved to CA for a job that didn’t come through fully and started back at the community college I attended while I was here in CA the 1st time while stationed here. I have been here almost a year and I am moving back to Austin but they say I have to fill out a proof of residency form. Well that is bad because although my parents and 2 of my kids live there, and I graduated high school and went to the military from Austin, I am no longer a resident because I have been in CA for a yr. They want to charge me 4k a semester. Should I have a friend write me a lease saying I have been there for the last year? But then again wont they see my transcripts showing i attended college here from Jan '08-dec’08? My lively hood depends on me receiving my GI Bill and without it I will have no money and of course further delay my education. Please help me.</p>

<p>I also attended the college in Austin from JAn 08-Dec 08.</p>

<p>so you are asking if its ok to LIE
and you are a parent???</p>

<p>Oh please. I have been paying Taxes in Tx for 27 yrs…I move to CA for 10 months and the school has had mixed answers if I am a resident or not. There may be loop holes, or ways around paying 4k a semester and that is what I am looking for. Yes I would lie and “say” I was a resident of the place I am technically a resident from. I haven’t lived in CA long enough to be a resident…and I havent been out of TX over a yr so I believe I still am a resident…Get over yourself. If ANYONE else can give me any advice I would love to hear it.</p>

<p>I think that it would be a big risk to have your friend lie for you because if caught, both you and he could be prosecuted like these students were:</p>

<p>The scandal described below included changing students’ residency status so they could get in-state tuition that they weren’t entitled to.</p>

<p><a href=“http://privateofficernews.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2009/10/05/former-fla-am-student-sent-to-prison-in-grade-scandal-www-privateofficer-com/[/url]”>http://privateofficernews.■■■■■■■■■■■■■/2009/10/05/former-fla-am-student-sent-to-prison-in-grade-scandal-www-privateofficer-com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>It’s not just a matter of lying being unethical.</p>

<p>If you’re caught faking your residency status to avoid OOS fees, you WILL be expelled. Then you still don’t have a college education, and you have a nice little expulsion you will have to explain away if you ever want one.</p>

<p>I guess no one here is very knowledgeable on the situation at hand. Half of the people that work there say I am considered a resident, then some say I am not because I moved. I fly back 1 or twice a month. I have my own room there…in a house. I have bills and bank statements still delivered to my house there. I am not a resident of CA. Soooooo I may go to prison (or my mom or a friend) when in reality I still have my own bed and cloths and storage and bills mailed to the same house? Sorry but once again that doesnt seem on the same level.</p>

<p>You’re ignoring the point. </p>

<p>It doesn’t MATTER whether or not you think residency law is fair. You say you cannot legitimately prove that you are a Texas resident. If you lie in order to prove that you are a Texas resident, you will get in trouble. Neither of these things will change because you don’t think they are fair.</p>

<p>So i cant have a place in two different states? Are you sure about that? Are you positive I am not a TX resident anymore because I moved here? If so, what are your sources for that?</p>

<p>No, I’m not positive. But you told us that you would have to lie in order to fill out the proof of residency form. If you have to lie in order to prove you are a Texas resident, you are not a Texas resident.</p>

<p>I think I can just use the new GI bill and be safe…Admissions office doesnt seemed to worried about it, as they just told me to have my mom sign something saying like that was still a place of residence even though I was doing a temp job for the CA fire Dept. This post wasn’t really about lying because I still do have a residency at my parents…my room hasnt changed…it was really just to see the most reasonable way of getting back into school in a place where I can get through the loop holes of paying as though I didnt have a residence in TX. Bottom line…Im gonna check and see if the new GI bill covers my OOS tuition as that seems easier then a bunch of paperwork and affidavits. Thanks for your input.</p>

<p>stolenvision,</p>

<p>Your best bet is to get yourself back to Texas, and back into your old life there. Then, go meet with the admissions people at the school where you want to study. They are the only people who can give you a straight answer. </p>

<p>Wishing you all the best!</p>

<p>Game the system. Go ahead. Saving a few dollars at a chance at expulsion with no degree. Why not, whats the risk?</p>

<p>Thats funny…little late there huh buddy? Try and catch up, I’ll wait.</p>

<p>From one Texan to another:</p>

<p>You were in CA for education purposes < a year. If I leave TX for college OOS, I’m still going to be a TX resident.</p>

<p>If you still have a valid Texas DL and maybe a Voters Registration card plus a valid TX address and if you paid a utility bill on the place where you have a room, isn’t that enough for proof of residency?</p>

<p>Well I have been getting some pretty mixed reviews by the admin office. First I was totally fine and didnt need to renew residency(because they said I was gone less then a yr. Then they needed a renewal and the affidavit from my mom saying I resided there and that would work, and lastly they said just show them the new lease of the house I am renting come Dec and that would suffice. This is 3 different people I have talked to. I just broke down and called an old friend from school that works in one of the offices and she said I shouldn’t have to pay an OOS fee for multiple reasons so she is going to pull up my files and handle it Mon…so there is light at the end of the tunnel.</p>

<p>I think part of the prob here was maybe missing info in your first post OP</p>

<p>if you pay taxes there in TX–on income, property etc and its on your 1040s
hold a drivers license from TX
produce a utility bill etc</p>

<p>I believe that the Univ will say TX is your state of residence, even if you have been doing something out of state temporarily. </p>

<p>We were out of the country for a short period and still had a home, taxes, etc etc in the US We were US residents of our home state although we had been gone for some months.</p>

<p>As a college student my state of res was where my lisence, taxes, voting registration etc were --not were I was for 9 mos of the yr…</p>

<p>Hope they can work that out for you.</p>

<p>Have you contacted the residency counselor at the school you want to attend? Have you checked the school FAQs for residency? Here is a link to UTs. [University</a> of Texas at Austin - Texas Residency FAQ](<a href=“http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/residency/resfaq.html#q1.2]University”>http://www.utexas.edu/student/admissions/residency/resfaq.html#q1.2)</p>

<p>The fact you went to CA for a job rather than for schools makes it a hard call and probably up to the residency counselor.</p>

<p>And as a former member of the AF I wish you had learned the core values better.</p>