<p>rvm, I am pulling for your son and have been checking regularly for your good news. That said, here’s a potential wrinkle that I myself experienced. I had been in a position as an hourly contractor for a couple of years when my boss posted my position, ostensibly to follow HR protocol before she could make me a permanent offer. Once posted, however, another employee who was about to lose her job with the company applied for my position. HR told my boss that she had to select the displaced employee ahead of me-- so my boss withdrew the posting and I remained on as a contractor – but only for as long as it took me to find something better after souring on my future there.</p>
<p>worrywart’s post is an example of the concern I raised. If they have to post for “legal” requirements-- they may have to give preferential hiring to someone else, also for “legal” requirements. </p>
<p>But I would agree that it is more likely than not that your son will get the job he wants. Sometimes you have to take some risks and trust that things will work out.</p>
<p>Glad that you came here and updated. Sounds frustrating. The cogs of some businesses move slowly. It seems familiar as how things went with my D’s employer. They were not in a hurry and things move at a glacier pace. It did all work out for her. I do wish your S had looked for other jobs but this is a mistake he needs to make. If it doesn’t work out, it will be a big life lesson. </p>
<p>My H’s company also has to post jobs, sometimes the jobs are promised to someone but that is the procedure. I would not co sign a lease with the uncertainly that is going on. It’s the college town he was in, he can find a sub lease until the job is permanent. If nothing else he could find a week to week rental in an extended stay hotel. You know you shouldn’t co sign or sign a long term lease right now.</p>
<p>Agree with calmom, sometimes you have to have hope that things will work out. I think they will but I well know this feeling with my kids.</p>
<p>Thanks for the different views on the job posting. I think that his direct interaction with his boss and the department head have been more casual - so it was a bit of a shock to suddenly learn of all these formal HR steps. I’m glad everyone agrees about not signing a lease for now. I originally said I would co-sign if needed, but if he had a firm ofer, which he does not. I feel very bad as he is so disappointed. He went from comparing the merits of two apartment complexes on Thursday to realizing he does not have a firm job offer yet and cannot rent an apartment quite yet on Friday. They are having a big event this weekend and he is working all weekend. I’m hoping that he will gain some additional info/reassurance.</p>
<p>deb922 - you and me both! I tried so many times to push him to look for other jobs. I think he is learning quite a bit from this experience.</p>
<p>RVM - thanks for the update - I’ve been thinking about you. That all sounds complicated and frustrating but hopefully it is all just legal gymnastics and everything will work out for him.</p>
<p>I’m right there with you in wishing S1 had looked for other jobs sooner. He now knows it was a huge mistake and has gone from being very angry and frustrated to accepting it and moving forward - lesson learned. Interestingly, he is back in “talks” with the company where he interned but it is moving very slowly - “glacier pace” is a perfect description. At least this time, he has other stuff out there too.</p>
<p>RVM - I hope that what the company is putting your son through are just formalitites of hiring, although it would’ve been helpful if they’d explained all that to him earlier than this past week. I agree with others that he should just sublet until he is formally hired with a definite salary. We had to co-sign for S2, but that was after we knew he had a job.</p>
<p>It’s good that your S2 is paying attention to what’s going on so maybe you won’t have to repeat this experience when he graduates. My S2 learned alot from watching S1’s missteps and mistakes. In my case, since S1 went straight to grad school, S2 was the first to apply for a real job so he had to make his own mistakes.</p>
<p>Here’s hoping it all works out for your son.</p>
<p>Job hunting can take an absurdly long time: I applied for my most recent job a full three months before they had me start. </p>
<p>If you haven’t job-hunted in years or have not had that experience, it’s easy to read things into it that are not there. That is, IMHO, counterproductive to your child’s well-being. “If they really liked the work that you have done, they would have hired you!” Gag.</p>
<p>My parents are wonderful people, but get wound up over contract jobs that end on schedule, hiring processes that take a long time, and - I kid you not - international companies on hiring freezes that don’t take me on. To say that such attitudes have damaged our relationship is an understatement.</p>
<p>S3 thought he had a job lined up for after graduation…not exactly what he wants to be doing, but a foot-in-the -door first step.</p>
<p>Unfortunately the person who had wanted to hire him has left the organization, there are a lot of structural/organization changes going on, and they would like S3 to “wait” so in the mean time he is suddenly growing up and realizing vague promises don’t always work out…</p>
<p>He is finally getting more irons in the fire.</p>
<p>And DIL is beginning her job hunt…our little boy is 11 weeks old now! She feels certain she will find something good fairly quickly…she just completed her MBA at MIT (graduating this week)</p>
<p>Oh my - this business of vague promises and verbal assurances is bad news! But I also have to say that I recall a few years back - at the height of the recession - there were a number of law school grads who had written job offers that were rescinded, so you just never know. I hope everyone in your family finds great jobs in short order. The waiting is awful.</p>
<p>good luck to your son too, RVM!</p>
<p>Our D is still enjoying the amazing feeling that she is FINALLY done with school for now and has no incompletes hanging over her head. She says this is the first time she’s been this relieved of school work in about 10 years, which is true! We’re supporting her in moving forward slowly–checking in with all her healthcare providers while she’s home for the next 6 weeks. When she gets back to LA, she’ll figure out where she’s moving to (her lease ends at the end of July). After that, she’ll look about and figure out where she will volunteer or intern. She and we are really enjoying the brief respite from all the deadlines.</p>
<p>Our S is a very different kid and had a job lined up by Feb of his SR year (2010), with 2 summer internships under his belt and lab work during the school year. He’s worked with his employer now for 2 years and is pretty content but trying to decide what he wants next (maybe MBA or more engineering, which employer may fund).</p>
<p>Well, he already found a place to stay for June and July, so that’s good. I just hate hearing him sound so discouraged. It seems like any joy or sense of accomplishment in graduating from college has been overshadowed by this job uncertainty. But, I guess many recent grads are in the same boat.</p>
<p>Good luck to your S RVM. It really sounds like it should work out. Keep up the faith!</p>
<p>My S accepted a paid summer internship in his field, so that he could stay in his college town with his friends for the summer. I would be happier if he had looked harder for a full time position at this point, but I have come the appreciate his decision. The internship will be good experience for him, adding to his resume, and he will have a fabulous summer. He will have his whole life to work a “real” job. </p>
<p>He may very well regret his decision when he’s living at home again come September!</p>
<p>It does seem like the progression from college to employment is more complex than it used to be. Maybe you really have to allow a year or two before you see concrete results. Internships after college seem to be more and more common - glad he found a paid internship!</p>
<p>At least it is paid Mom2009. You could encourage him to keep looking at the ads for his next opportunity since summer will go by quick.</p>
<p>So, S1 has now had his 3rd interview for what appears to be his dream job with a dream company. He will now have a 2-3 hour skype interview (possibly) tomorrow, then if all goes well, will fly out for the final on-site interview. Whew - what a process. I am hopeful for him but also a bit selfishly apprehensive as this job is located clear across the country. </p>
<p>Interestingly, he has a second in-person interview today for a similar position, with another wonderful company, 5 minutes from home. </p>
<p>Keeping my fingers crossed for one of these to come through - he would be thrilled with either position, although I think he prefers the one on the opposite coast…</p>
<p>I hope the interviews go well, Dwhite. I can understand you pulling for the job closer to home. My D1 had hoped to find a job in our area, but ended up in a city 8 hours away. At the end of the summer she is transferring and will be 3 hours away, so we’re getting there. </p>
<p>Good luck to RVM’s S and the others who are still waiting. The process seems very long and complicated.</p>
<p>Momjr-thanks! He said it was a fairly rigorous interview but he already got a call for the “final phase” scheduled for noon tomorrow. He also has that long Skype interview tomorrow-it’s going to be a very busy day but its a good type of busy.</p>
<p>dwhite - how exciting! I love that he has two great possibilities.</p>
<p>My son is taking some time off - and then returning to his job - as a low paid part-time employee - with hopes that he will become a full-time salaried employee with benefits in the next few weeks. I have given up on advising him to do otherwise - he is committed to this path and will see it through to its conclusion - whatever that might be.</p>
<p>Good luck to your son dwhite. A two or three hour interview sounds grueling.</p>