I don't fit in at my college!

<p>I’m a freshman at a state school about 2 hours away from my home town. Now, I never thought I would get homesick but every time I’m here I long to be back and away from this school. I thought things would get better after the first semester but I just find myself getting more and more miserable.</p>

<p>This wasn’t a school that I wanted to go to in the first place. In fact I didn’t know much about it until I got a letter after a competition offering me scholarship money if I auditioned there. I’m a theater major and I wanted to go to a school where I could double major and also study theater with other people that didn’t want to abandon more traditionally scholarly pursuits. This school offered an easy double major and gave me a full ride, so though I was accepted to my dream school NYU, I had no way of paying the $50k a year they wanted after financial aid (my parents make enough money that I don’t get much aid, but not enough to help me pay for school. Sucks.) so I went with my only full ride offer.</p>

<p>I don’t fit here at all. It seems like no one here really cares about anything except getting drunk and getting a degree and I don’t know how to talk to people who’s only interests are parties and talc reality shows. I’m sure there are plenty of people here smarter than me, but it feels like I’m speaking a different language than most people here. It’s a completely different culture of people – I’m used to challenging honors and AP classes and students who really cared about their grades and weren’t embarrassed to be smart.</p>

<p>Here the classes are even easier than they were in high school, most of my professors have never worked in their field, and most of the students are the kind that thought their teacher was “a real ■■■■■” if they expected them to participate.</p>

<p>No one here understands my sense of humor, which feels awful because back home that was kind of my thing - I was the funny one! This is a sciences school so everyone thinks I’m an idiot because of my major. Others think I’m arrogant or superior just because I like to talk about something besides toddlers in tiaras and weed and want to do something else with my weekend than get drunk in a filthy frat basement.</p>

<p>I don’t feel welcome on my floor, half of which leaves on the weekend at this largely commuter school. My roommate is constantly complaining about me, rarely goes to class, does stupid,very illegal things all the time, and while one second I feel like we’re friends, the next she’s just downright rude or condescending to me. No one includes me in anything. I have plenty ideas of things I’d like to do but no one that wants to do it with me (no one I’m acquainted with is ever up for anything except drinking). I feel like I have no one to talk to about any of this. My twin sister is loving her school and never has time to talk to me because she’s always studying (she goes to Cornell, a school that’s actually challenging and full of intelligent people.)</p>

<p>People say join a club but there aren’t that many clubs here and the ones that exist no one really cares about, even the people in them. I’d start an acapella group but I don’t have any friends and one lame, hardly music literate person does not an acapella club make. People say that in a school like this with 13k students there’s every kind of person, buticant find anyone like me. Which makes sense, because why would someone like me go to a place like this? The only reason I’m in the unique situation of having good grades and says and being a theater major-- most here had to be specially admitted.</p>

<p>I’m so depressed here. The only thing that gets me through is the idea that I might be able to transfer next semester, but it’s becoming very clear to me that that dream is very unlikely. My dad will not allow me to leave unless I get another full ride somewhere else (unlike my twin, who is a stem major and is less likely to be crippled by debt). I don’t know what to do. I’ve applied other places but I know my chances are slim. Do I apply more places as a stem major and just go there (despite my hate for the sciences and my dream to have a job I actually enjoy)? I can’t bear to be here another year. I’d rather drop out. I’m so lonely and I’m getting nothing from my classes. I feel so trapped and bored and lonely here and I can’t stand it.</p>

<p>Start researching other schools and transfer. School is too important not to enjoy being there.</p>

<p>I’ve applied to 4 schools that I’ve heard give a lot of scholarship money especially for arts students and people with good sat scores. I don’t know how it’ll turn out since I’m a transfer… My dad is insisting on the no debt thing. He will not allow me to apply for more because he wants me to stay where I am and doesn’t want to pay fees. I don’t know what I’ll do if I don’t get in/ get money.</p>

<p>You need to have a serious conversation with your dad. Why doesn’t he want to pay for your tuition? People whose parents make enough money for a 50k EPC don’t get crippled by debt. </p>

<p>You need to get out of this situation because it is going to affect your grades and you won’t be able to transfer or in the worst case scenario, graduate. But getting into a wrong major from your present situation wouldn’t be wise either. You need to get out for all the right reasons, and not simply for the sake of getting out. Change of geography alone wouldn’t help you much.
Have you looked into enrolling in an online program? </p>

<p>Your portion of efc is $50k or that’s the total and you have $25k of that between u and your twin? This is a really tough issue, but your mental health is most important. Congrats on the full ride but $$ is not everything especially if you are miserable. Will your dad consider paying any $$ for your education? </p>

<p>Hey guys. My parents were heartbroken that they weren’t able to send me to NYU but their in a ton of debt themselves because of unfortunate timing and real estate… They make a decent amount (my mom is at the top pay bracket for a NYC elementary teacher and my dad works tons of overtime so they bother just make 6 figures) but don’t have a lot. They’re also struggling to pay the interest on my older brother’s 135k loans. I mean, NYU was just not doable – I don’t even know that it’s possible to take out $200k in loans. My real EFC is around 25k (that’s what Cornell brought my sister’s price down to. NYU is notoriously stingy). My parents also didn’t save up for me and my siblings’ college – they figured anything they saved would just get taken out in financial aid, and for schools hat actually meet EFC I bet that would be true. My dad is also from Europe and people get free school there – no one saves up for college.</p>

<p>I definitely screwed up in applying (my senior year of high school) mostly to expensive private schools, generally because a lot of theater schools that are academically competitive are private, but even schools that gave me some money would’ve put me in around $100k of debt by the end of it, which isn’t a great idea for someone who wants to pursue a career in the arts. When I unexpectedly got a full scholarship, from my dad’s point of view it was the best thing that could have happened. On the other hand he doesn’t want to be the one paying back my loans when I’m working at Starbucks due to my worthless major, and on the other he doesn’t want me to be so trapped in debt that I’m unable to pursue a career I actually want.</p>

<p>Being without debt sounds <em>glorious</em> but I can’t stand it here. I won’t apply to NYU again (despite how much I love it) because it’ll just turn out the same, and even if it didn’t, my dad is now of the mindset that I can’t go into any debt – he won’t allow me to trade this deal for more debt. My mom is more allowing but still wants my debt to be minimal – no more than 20 or 30k, which still seems really impossible if I leave.</p>

<p>I’ve talked to my parents time and time again. My mom understands (she hated her first college and transferred to one that she ended up loving, as a music major). My dad went to 2-year technical school and has always worked hard. He says “college isn’t about having fun – just get your degree as fast as you can and get out.”</p>

<p>He also thinks that I’m choosing to be unhappy here, and that my attitude is the reason I have no friends and nothing to do. I didn’t have this problem in high school, but somehow I don’t know how to relate to the people here – they just don’t understand anything I do or say. I just feel so out of place here and I can’t find one person who gets me. I’m not that weird though – it shouldn’t be this hard. It wasn’t that hard in high school!</p>

<p>I didn’t want my college experience to just be 4-year purgatory until I get an increasingly worthless degree – especially while my sister is having the time of her life at Cornell. My parents try to make me feel better my telling me that my sister has to work hard at her school while I just coast with hardly any work – but I want to have work to do! Isn’t that what college is supposed to be like?</p>

<p>sorry for my novel-like posts. I have a lot of feels. And also no one to talk to about it.</p>

<p>@SnoozeButton it’s okay to vent, there are always people out there who will listen :)</p>

<p>I agree with everyone else saying that you should transfer. If you really feel like you’re stuck and there’s absolutely no way to make the situation better (even with effort and time), then transferring will be best for your mental health and studies. It’s not fair for your parents to imply that your sister’s work at Cornell is more important than yours (that’s the vibe I’m getting, correct me if I’m mistaken please), because you deserve the best education you can get as well.</p>

<p>Are there any public colleges with good theatre programs that have interested you?</p>

<p>I did some quick googling and found:</p>

<p>"Purchase College in the State University of New York system offers proximity to New York City and its four-theater Performing Arts Center is the major professional nonprofit arts facility in the southeastern New York, southwestern Connecticut region. SUNY-Purchase topped “The Princeton Review” list in 2012. The school offers a Bachelor of Fine Arts in acting as well as a Bachelor of Arts in Theatre and Performance. The acting BFA program at Rutgers University accepts 9 percent of applicants, who spend their third year at Shakespeare’s Globe Theatre in London, according to “The Hollywood Reporter.” (<a href=“The Top Acting Colleges in the United States - The Classroom”>http://everydaylife.globalpost.com/colleges-theatre-majors-17506.html&lt;/a&gt;)</p>

<p>I’m sorry I can’t help more, I don’t know what else to day :(</p>

<p>I agree with your dad, college isn’t about having fun, it’s about getting an education and thriving and growing (as I’m sure you know) but since you feel this way, something’s obviously not right, and it needs to be changed.</p>

<p>Oh, definitely get the heck out of Dodge. Keep your grades up, see a support person on campus, and find a new school. Think about schools in great theater cities (NYC, Boston, Chicago, San Francisco, Washington, DC), or great theater schools even if they’re in po-dunk. Make sure the instructors/profs at the new school have successful experience in the theater field. Check out schools abroad too. Or, can you stay at this school but go on study abroad next year to give you respite while you strategize a way out? It seems your dad will consider numbers, if you obtain a bunch of transfer offers and present the options. </p>

<p>I would highly recommend that you re-post this thread in the Theater/Drama forum. There are many people over there who could give you some good advice/ideas.</p>

<p>Meanwhile, while you are still at your current school, can you find more like-minded people in an honors program? Statistically, with 13,000 people there really do need to be others like you, even if a minority. Are there any dorm living situations that are more intentional, such as an honors floor for more serious students? I would go ask everyone at your current school in the housing, student life, counseling, and whatever other departments there are, for ideas. </p>

<p>Ask to transfer into the Honors Program for this semester (or enroll in honors classes or hang out in the Honors building…) and start looking at transfer possibilities.
I understand the situation - I have a friend who teaches at a college like that and half the students didn’t even bother showing up for their final, which is unthinkable to me. They’re just not into learning or academics and complain when others are. The driven students end up transferring to more stimulating/welcoming colleges. You sound thoroughly miserable indeed. But you summed up your situation quite well: transferring isn’t easy financially.
What’s in-state for you? Are you at SUNY Purchase, or UCincinnati?
If your loan burden is within the Federal Loan limit (27k for 4 years) you may manage it, especially if you take on internships to get professional skills along with your theater skills.
Are you currently working? If not, look into on-campus jobs and start saving.
Could you ask if there’s space in the substance-free dorm?</p>

<p>I’m sorry Snooze, that’s got to be tough. I’m sure being away from your twin for the first time makes it even harder.</p>

<p>I think the suggestion to look at schools you could transfer to that are located in big cities that have a thriving theater culture is a good one. You don’t have to find your kindred spirits at school if you can find them in a local theater community. </p>

<p>I feel your pain, OP. The same thing happened to me, except I’m a writing major lost in a school full of STEM majors–although I do also do theatre! :wink: I actually get along with the people on my hall, but they’re all in engineering and science, and I’m sort of the token minority pretentious writer…They’ve all become best friends, and I’m just sort of that girl who tags along. I’m with everyone else–transfer! Deadlines usually come up in March, so you probably should get started. I don’t know if SUNY schools offer scholarships like Georgia schools do, but if you have a certain GPA and SAT score, you get free tuition. If your state offers anything like that, then you should take advantage of it. I would just choose one of the better SUNYs if I were you. I really don’t know a lot about them, being from Georgia, but since I’ve actually heard of them, I’m sure that some of them are worth attending.
Anyways, good luck, and, if it’s any consolation, remember that you are not the only person who’s regretting their college choice. </p>