I need to call out my parents, and I don't know how.

I should preface this by saying that my parents don’t pay for my college. They’ve been consistently angry at me over my choices, though. To make a complicated set of circumstances short, I didn’t go to college until I was 22. At the time, I lived in Montana, but didn’t have Montana residency for tuition purposes. My parents (as in, mother and stepfather) lived in Colorado, where I wasn’t willing to live. I was born, raised, and graduated high school in California. I had to choose between an acceptance letter from the University of Montana and $35,000 in education expenses a year, or an offer from my paternal grandmother to live with her in Silicon Valley, where I could go to community college and use AB 540 to waive out of state tuition and get state financial aid. With a BOG waiver and Pell, that meant community college would be free, and my grandmother didn’t want room and board. Add in that she lives 2.5 miles from the best community college ever established, and the fact that I’d originally been wanting to do two years at the University of Montana and then transfer to a California school, and my decision was obvious. This made my parents extremely angry. They wanted me to go to the University of Montana, and they were quite adament that the cost didn’t matter because student loans (I’m not sure if my parents understand that you pay those back.). They thought community college beneath me. They also hate my paternal grandmother’s side of the family. They particularly hate that I set aside my anger at my father for spending my entire teenage years in state prison, because I can actually approach him for emotional support, which I’ve never been able to do with my parents.

It’s been over two years, I’m now studying at a CSU, I’ve moved out of my grandmother’s house (She supported me through community college, but we both agreed I needed to find a place for university), and I have an associate’s degree with magna cum laude on it, and they are still mad. I can barely talk to them without getting criticized, and they don’t tell me things. My mother had a stroke a year ago, and I didn’t know for two weeks. I told my grandmother who told my father, and I got a very angry phone call from my stepdad screaming about how that’s exactly why he doesn’t tell me things. How dare I tell my grandmother, who supported me financially at the time, the truth about why I was so upset. So when my stepgrandfather got diagnosed with Parkinson’s, I didn’t find out for weeks. When my maternal grandmother died this summer (good riddance), I only knew that day because my sister was handling affairs instead of my mother. I don’t do this to them. When my maternal grandmother got rushed to the hospital, I knew before my mother, and I called her right away. This is getting increasingly infuriating. Added to it is that they don’t seem to want me around much. They flew me out to Colorado this summer, so I thought they did, but they mostly avoided me like when I was a teenager the whole time I was there. I hadn’t seen them in two and a half years. If they want help, they call my sister, not me (And let’s not get started on the ridiculous amount of responsibility placed on her.). A couple weeks ago, they visited California for a week and a half. Went from Sacramento to San Jose to see my sister several times. Didn’t come to San Francisco to see me once. They can also be unreasonable about the weirdest things. My parents are fairly liberal, and support transgender rights. I mentioned being transgender on Facebook (which I block non-friends from seeing), and it turns out my stepdad was using my brother’s Facebook to look at my Facebook. He flipped out, not because I’m trans, but because he very firmly believed that my brother was too young to know that trans people exist and that I was being very inappropriate to clue him in. My brother was fourteen when this happened. He had a similar freakout about a gay man’s memoirs being in my room when my brother was twelve. Not to mention that my parents say they support me being trans and always have, but when I was a kid they were very strict about never allowing me to do anything girly (my mother even flat out said she didn’t want her son acting or looking like a girl). Oh, and they still maintain that I made a mistake to go to community college instead of the University of Montana.

It’s hit the point where I need to ask them if I’m even part of this family, if they are still angry and why, and if they’d prefer it if I just stopped talking to them. Problem is, I’ve never really stood up to them before (They weren’t the type to take lip or disagreement from a teenager one bit, and as an adult I maintained the lesson to keep my mouth shut and avoid confrontation), and I don’t know how adults are supposed to handle calling out their parents. Especially parents who have never really been approachable (I can count on one hand the number of times where we discussed things when I was a kid as opposed to yelling and putting feet down). Parents, what would you expect from your kids in this situation? What would make you want to listen?

Is there a therapist near you who specializes in family-of-origin issues? There is a great deal going on in your post, and it would be wonderful if you could find an objective person to help you sort through how to have proper boundaries (and a relationship) with your parents now that you’re an adult.

Hopefully you can salvage the relationship to some extent, but if you can’t, it’s not necessarily on you.

I don’t think you can “make” anyone listen. It’s wonderful if parents are supportive, and encouraging, and open to honest conversations. But not all are. That’s something you may have to accept. Again, a good therapist might be able to help you gauge what you’re dealing with.

Wishing you peace and clarity.

I agree with @SouthFloridaMom9, a therapist could be extremely helpful at this junction in your life. One who is well versed in family of origin and transgender issues would be ideal. Sounds like you are making good decisions for yourself, and difficult ones at that because your parents don’t agree. You need a way to find peace in your mind and your life, even if that means giving up meaningful involvement with your parents, and no matter what you end up doing, that is likely to hurt quite a lot. A good therapist could be a godsend.

I can’t figure out how to PM but I agree that a therapist would be great. And, it may be that it’s healthier not to have a relationship with them. http://youtu.be/TxAa2Hd7q8k

This video was helpful to me when my parents treated my sister badly. I think, regardless of the issue, he makes good points. Good luck to you.

You have done amazingly well with the support of a wonderful grandmother in CA. Once you start at a four year college I’d echo the sentiments of others that you seek out counseling. None of us knows if the relationship with your parents can be salvaged, but it seems worthwhile to try – at best the relationship can improve and at worst you can hopefully be a peace knowing you tried. Either way keep moving forward with your education and make a great life for yourself.

Yup, another vote for a therapist. It can help you sort out if and how to approach them, or how to set aside and distance yourself as needed.

Yet another vote for a therapist. A counselor or therapist can help you sort out your end goals and suggest ways of achieving them.

I think you need to consider what you will do if the answer is they don’t consider you part of the family, don’t want you to contact them anymore. What will your response be? How will that change your relationship with your siblings?

Or if they say they don’t want anything to change. They’d like you to keep living in California, visit them every few years in Colorado, but not to expect anything else.

How will your decisions change? It sounds like you are doing well in school, have your living situation figured out. I think a therapist may help YOU, but not change them at all.

OP, I would thank your grandmother every day for allowing you to escape this TOXIC relationship with your “parents”

Narcissistic people like this are oblivious to the reality of how they ruin relationships. They can NEVER be at fault- It will ALWAYS be the fault of the other person- in this case you.
I see NO benefit to you in trying to have any further contact with them.
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Dont waste one further moment trying to communicate with them- it will only frustrate you and will, in the end , change nothing.
Find another outlet for your anger, disappointment, and frustration. Therapy is a good idea, as well as exercise.
Congratulations for keeping your head on straight in spike of your crazy- making relatives.
Wishing you the best!

OP, I think you’re doing just fine on your own. I also had a difficult relationship with my parents, although nothing at the level you’ve experienced. There’s really no need to “have it out” with your parents. I just let my relationship fizzle, not even through anything active on my part but mostly just going along with the lack of communication established by my parents. I’m still cordial with my parents and talk to them a few times a year, and I’m perfectly happy with that.

Relationships don’t always have to end with a bang. You can let this one end with a whimper. Many, many people seem to have a cultural imperative to preserve familial relationships at all costs. I don’t really understand why, and I don’t subscribe to that newsletter. Love the people who love you and distance yourself from those who don’t.

Nothing to add to what’s been said above, but I am VERY impressed with your drive and work ethic in earning your associate’s degree magna cum laude and in making the difficult decisions about putting your education first. The fact that you could put aside the family drama and buckle down like that is remarkable. Truly, congratulations on the hard work you are putting into your future. You are clearly a talented and hard-working person and I wish you well.

In reading and re-reading “family of origin problems,” I had to ask myself why one would word anything that way. I came to the conclusion that the only thing to say to you is this, something I told a most beautiful young man in college, a person who knew he loved other men, but who had not wanted to lose the emotional support of his family:

“Friends are the family we make for ourselves.”

If you do decide to continue to try to be family with those who first claimed you as family, lower your expectations, as others have said. If you do not, be assured that as you move forward in life, especially making decisions for your future that are forward-leaning and bound to reap a benefit to you, hold dear those who hold you dearly. You can make that happen.

I have been where you are, with my family of origin, and I agree totally what others have said, especially about finding someone to talk to about it (if you are at college, they usually offer counseling services, if you can’t afford to see a private therapist).We are raised to believe the crap that blood is thicker than water, that the bonds of family are sacred, but the reality is a lot more complex than that (and don’t get me the kind of drivel that priests and other clergy give out on the subject, barf making), and often our families of origin are not even close to the sugar coated image.

You seem to have made a solid path for yourself, you are getting an education without getting a ton of debt, you seem to be self realized, and your parents are complaining because you didn’t go to the school they wanted you to? They should be able to respect your choices, and what I read in your post is frankly a pair of self centered people who probably are thinking “how do I tell the relatives my kid went to community college”, instead of being proud of you for doing things your way.

My take with your parents is that calling them out probably won’t work. You can try to talk to them as an adult, and tell them why their behavior bothers you, that you aren’t a child, you aren’t asking anything of them, that you would like to have a relationship with them but that you expect to be treated the way you would expect strangers, let alone friends and family, to treat you. It is not about calling them out, it is about setting boundaries and expectations for the relationship, and if they cannot respect that, then you need to go forward knowing that and protect yourself. It is a lesson I learned the hard way, and for simply setting boundaries around my relationship with my birth family and my own family, it ended up leaving me an outsider. It hurt, but I did nothing wrong, I simply wouldn’t play their games, and I am proud they did.

As far as you being transgender, you also may be better off not around them. A lot of people are very, very liberal, proclaim support for gays and transgender people, except if it comes into their lives, that liberal parent who supports gay rights suddenly isn’t so wonderful when a son or daughter is gay, and they often start sounding more like some bigoted homophobe than the liberal they proclaimed themselves to be (the fact that they would be upset about you posting your status as transgender, or have a book about someone gay or whatnot, to ‘protect your brother’ smacks of that thing; you didn’t exactly have a gay porn magazine, it shows the way they view being gay or transgender, as some sort of disease you catch or are taught).

If it gets rough and you need someone to vent/talk about it, PM me if you want, I am not a therapist or a replacement for one, just someone who has been through many of the things you are going through:). One thing, keep your head up, you really seem to have your act together, and I think in a couple of years you are going to reap the rewards of that, and with a bit of separation from the madness that can be birth families, you will gain perspective. Gather around you the friends you cherish , the family that treats you as such, that makes for the real family, and everyone else keep at a distance, in the end it is much, much better, I promise:)

Thanks for all the advice. We do have university therapist services. I’ll see about talking to them. Especially because this stuff goes a lot deeper than the OP. I was just trying not to have it massively long, so I went for borad strokes. Can go deeper with a therapist. I want to know where I stand with my parents. This constant flitting between ignoring each other and fighting, with the too-few good times mixed in between, isn’t working for me. When we’re getting along, it’s great, but we usually don’t get along. It also gets me that they are mad I went to community college when my associate’s degree is more than either of them have, and I am getting a bachelor’s, and hopefully a master’s (at which point I’ll be really happy I took those two free years of school). I’ve already moved farther than them and I’m not stopping, yet I’m wrong.

I have more thoughts, but it’s about 2AM and I have homework to do tomorrow.

I doubt the real source of their anger is the community college issue; that issue is just the more “PC” one for them to pin their anger on.

Do get counseling. You’re already pretty insightful, so I think it would do a world of good for you.

Good luck, and if you feel like it, give us an update at some point.

I have nothing to add beyond Yes, see a therapist, but I wish you the best. It sounds like your family has things going on that preceded you and supersede you. You need to take care of yourself, and that might require letting your family go.