IB from UofM but NOT ROSS

<p>Just wondering if the big banks recruit there even if you're NOT in Ross. I know they recruit Ross graduates, but I'm just curious whether or not someone can pursue that career without getting into Ross. Seeing as it's nearly impossible to get into.</p>

<p>Ross is far from nearly impossible to get into. You know that you can apply your freshman year if you're not a pre-admit right? </p>

<p>I have heard stories of people that were ECON majors getting into IBs, but it's not common.</p>

<p>Ross accepts roughly one third of Michigan applicants. The typical GPA while Michigan for successful applicants ranges from 3.4-3.9. As such, although not easy to get into, Ross is, as Kyle2011 points out, far from "nearly impossible to get into."</p>

<p>Although IBanks hire several LSA and CoE students annually, the odds from those two schools are not nearly as good as the odds from Ross.</p>

<p>I've just heard that students with GPA's ranging from 3.5+ getting denied from Ross which has me worried about attending Michigan and getting stuck in LSA vs going to Michigan State and getting into Broad. I'm 100% sure I could get into Broad, but worried about even attempting Ross.</p>

<p>LSA from Michigan is way better than the b school at State.</p>

<p>maizeandblue21 is quite right. For a career in IB, LSA would be a better bet than Broad.</p>

<p>I think MSU has a student investment fund and if you're in the managing board of that, you have a good chance of breaking into a BB. There might be about 5-10 students who break into IB from MSU each year and that's probably the same number as LS&A to be honest.</p>

<p>What you should look into is Indiana's b-school Kelley; it's by far a better opportunity than the two in front of you. Kelley sends anywhere from 30-40 students to BBs and other IBs each year.</p>

<p>Still definitely wouldn't go to any school at Indiana or State over LSA. Even though you'd be getting a business education at those places for sure and you'd have to apply to Ross, if you're serious about getting into a BB ibank you'll work your ass off freshman year and get into Ross. It's not impossible. That's the only target school out of all of these that you're talking about and even LSA still carries the Michigan name.</p>

<p>I am not sure where goldenboy got his information about 10 LSA students from LSA getting IB jobs each year. LSA does not publish placement reports and professional placement figures from LSA will definitely be less impressive than those from Ross. This said, I personally knew more than than a handful of Econ majors that secured placements at BB IBs each of my last two years at Michigan. I doubt I knew more than a small fraction of the total who were placed out of LSA, but I would estimate it is significantly more than 10 annually. That's a pretty hefty number considering that most qualified Michigan students who are interested in IBanking enroll into Ross.</p>

<p>Alexandre, I think it was you that posted this, but if not, I remember someone on the forums had a great comment about IB recruitment, and he said "If you don't get into Ross freshman year, you're not cut out to get into an IB anyway." </p>

<p>Just something to think about, it's an ultra competitive business and surely going to U of M give the best chance by far over any of the other schools listed. I would say getting into Ross should be taken as a given if getting into an IB is truly your goal.</p>

<p>The reason I'm worried about getting into Ross is because I'm transferring from a CC. Not because I had poor HS grades/poor ACT, but the mere fact of saving a little bit of money. So assuming I attend uMich next year it would be one year of LSA then hopefully going to Ross. I wouldn't even think about apply to Ross until my junior year, which would already put me behind the pack. (I'm assuming not many juniors get into Ross/no CC transfers would EVER be accepted) If I'm wrong please let me know, but that's just an assumption from things I've been told. (Not sure if any of it's even accurate haha)</p>

<p>You do know acceptance probably shouldn't be your biggest concern, but having to spend an extra year in college? (since Ross is a three year program)</p>

<p>At this point one year wouldn't matter to me. My financial situation has changed in such a way that an extra year would essentially make no difference.</p>

<p>Well if that's the case, then just try really hard to get a 3.75+ and get into Ross, which shouldn't be too hard as long as you avoid calc/hard sciences/engineering.</p>

<p>I was accepted to LSA with a 1860 SAT. Will they still consider my score when applying to Ross? Or Should I take it again if want to get into Ross? I've taken it 3 times already, unfortunately.</p>

<p>No, SAT won't matter at all, the freshman application to Ross is based purely on achievements and numbers from your college career.</p>

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<li><p>If you cant get into ross, you probably wont have the qualification for IB. getting into Ross is much easier than landing a job in IB. Ross is not hard to get into, considering that slightly less than half the people who apply get in (and there are a lot of duds that apply).</p></li>
<li><p>It's not worth paying another year of tuition to do ross to break into IB.</p></li>
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<p>Bearcats, I agree fully with your first point. In fact I have often said as much. However, I cannot agree with your second point. If one truly wishes to break into IB and has the financial means to pay for an additional year of college, I recommend Ross highly.</p>

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It's still somewhat arbitrary though as I know this guy who had a 3.8+ but didn't get into Ross after freshman year so he transferred to Cornell (had a Guaranteed Transfer Option there when he applied in high school just in case Ross didn't work out). He ended up getting a 3.9+ in Cornell and getting an IBD job at Citigroup in their M&A group. Clearly he is "IB material".</p>

<p>There's also the other issue that most students have no idea what they want to do in life till their junior or senior year of school. By this time, it's too late to apply to Ross. Only recent have high school seniors been saying they want to be Investment Bankers or Management Consultants instead of Lawyers, Professors or Doctors. Most college students at the majority of the target schools in the country without undergraduate business programs only found out about these jobs junior year when there were presentations on campus.</p>

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I'm pretty sure Indiana Kelley is a target school. I didn't think so before but I'm more inclined to label it as such after seeing how well it is represented at some of my friends' analyst classes in Deutsche Bank and Merrill.</p>

<p>It'll be easier to stand out at Kelley too in comparison to Ross. I know a guy from high school who went there and now has a job at LEK Consulting while a girl from my high school who went to Ross is working at Unilever (an ok job but not elite like LEK).</p>

<p>Goldenboy, bringing in specific experiences like that does depict the reality of the situation. You can find a story of someone who went to a community college that ended up at an IB somehow, the more important point is where is the OPPORTUNITY the best. Clearly for this student that is at Ross, and I don't think you will dispute that. You saying it'll be easier to "stand out" at Kelley basically just says "it's a weaker institution."</p>