<p>and if it is an armed compound, those goods need to be brought in via trucks and the like, probably crossing state lines, if that is indeed the reason no one wnat to go in</p>
<p>so these people can order whatever they want and get it with no one checking and we just let it slide, while we spend our energy looking at my shoes</p>
<p>makes me feel safe, if we are indeed worried about a waco and these religous poeple can stock up maybe, are others? and do we let Mormans get whatever, hide away, build all this stuff without checking, but bet that wouldn’t be tolerated by a Muslim communtty or even a simple day care center</p>
<p>I guess they did TRY to inspect, but have often been denied, but not much came of that</p>
<p>and I would think this rape conviction would be ample enough reason to go in and check on the safety of the children</p>
<p>I mean a mom can get in trouble and be check out by Child Protective Services for really minor reasons, if Jeffs conviction isn’t enough of a reason, then what the heck is?</p>
<p>Hey CGM, I’m not sure if the news reached you, but here in NYC this year we had a major fire where I think 7 people died (including children) because their parents were polygamists living in an illegally-converted apartment. The neighbors knew as did the schools, but no one reported this to the building department because everyone was afraid to be accused of religious intolerance because the family was Muslim. Of course, the father/husband is going to sue the city and fire department because our liberal, tolerant city didn’t save him from himself.</p>
<p>well, that was wrong of all involved…religion should not even have been in the picture…it was about unsafe conditions and a family and to be fearful of whatever religion they claim is foolish</p>
<p>I think they (FLDS at YFZ) are permitted. They were fined last year because their cement plant had code problems. (Yes…they have their own cement plant.) They would be governed by whatever ordinances regarding code are in place in that county.</p>
<p>Have to say…pretty impressive looking work they’ve done there in Eldorado. It should be noted there are similar FLDS compounds in Northern Chihuahua and I understand there is now an airstrip or plans for an airstrip at YFZ.</p>
<p>Honestly, I’m fairly sure they are pretty heavily scrutinized by the ATF. I’m most worried about what is happening to kids there. The child abuse angle was the initial catalyst for Waco.</p>
<p>To answer a few other questions. They do follow some Texas laws at least re: death certificates. Coroner had to issue a death certificate on one of Warren Jeff’s wives last year I believe. But I understand these records are sealed in Texas for 75 years.</p>
<p>I’m sure they are doing the home-schooling thing, at least through the age/grade of the minimum state requirement.</p>
<p>If you haven’t read Jon Krakauer’s book “Under the Banner of Heaven”, then you need to.
Very frightening stuff, and that book is years old. This movement has grown way beyond what most people are aware of.<br>
Look at the photos ldmom posted - these folks have a high brick wall with steel gates around their church. They must be predicting that they will be protecting it from the “outsiders”.</p>