<p>is it rape? THe Warren Jeffs case:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298003,00.html[/url]”>http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,298003,00.html</a></p>
<p>why would it not be rape</p>
<p>As “a prophet who speaks to God”, Jeffs is guilty of being an accomplice to rape. When the “prophet” tells a 19 yr old to marry his 14 yr old cousin, the 19 yr old was compelled by his beliefs to comply. (The “husband” is going to be tried for rape.) </p>
<p>And you are right. It doesn’t get much ickier than this…</p>
<p>according to the law, it was rape…she was 14…and Jeffs supplied her to her rapist…</p>
<p>I don’t know what “accomplice to rape” really means so I don’t know if he should be guilty of that although the jury has already decided it. The so-called ‘husband’ should be guilty of rape though since she was underage and he wasn’t legally married to her. I saw no mention of his fate in the article. There’s also no mention of the girl’s parents and their role in this. The girl’s parents should also be charged with this for allowing it to take place.</p>
<p>It looks as if Jeffs is guilty of all kinds of infractions so he’ll likely have plenty to be convicted of.</p>
<p>And yes - huge ick factor here.</p>
<p>Does anyone know if the mother and father are being charged for pimping out their minor daughter? </p>
<p>How lovely that this group now resides in El Dorado Texas on the YFZ (Yearning for Zion) Ranch. From here, you can almost feel another Waco approaching…</p>
<p>I didn’t know that IDMOM. That is very scary.</p>
<p>True story zoosermom…Warren Jeffs was even there to consecrate the temple prior to his arrest. </p>
<p>It’s quite a compound and as I understand it, for now, there is uneasy peace between FLDS members and locals. The land was acquired for the FLDS by men posing as corporate executives with the stated purpose to build a corporate hunting retreat. Only after the deal closed, were the true identity and intentions of the purchasing party revealed. Several concerns: the population of the county is so sparse that should the FLDS members decide to vote, they could take control of the county government (so far they have shown no interest in voting), the FLDS has been involved in gov’t scams and welfare fraud as a means of income, and there is worry child abuse in the form of forced underage marriages is occurring. I believe a couple of laws were recently pushed through by Gov Perry to hamstring them a little on what constitutes a legal marriage including increasing age with parental consent and prohibiting marriages between stepfather and stepdaughter, among other restrictions.</p>
<p>Why does our government permit polygamous communities? I mean, clearly, they turn a blind eye…</p>
<p>Idmom, just wow. Thank you for passing along that information. I am absolutely flabbergasted. do you live in the vicinity of the compound?</p>
<p>weenie - I believe because between consenting adults there are no laws broken if a husband takes only one legal wife and subsequent ‘spiritual’ wives. They run into legal problems when members of their community who are minors marry adults under duress. Then it becomes case by case prosecution issue. (I do think Utah has state laws prohibiting spiritual wives and the polygamy lifestyle.)</p>
<p>zooser - El Dorado is located west of San Antonio on I-10…so not close. There are interesting aerial views of the compound when it was under construction at wikimap. Since those photos, the compound has been completed and an estimated 1000-1500 people in prairie garb have moved in. The 10 story (equivalent) temple reportedly is built like a bunker…and there are dormitories, silos, crops, a quarry, wells, etc. They are almost self-sufficient.</p>
<p>It is believed they chose Texas because Texans have a strong sense of individual rights which they felt would protect them. MANY in Texas actually believe the federal gov’t was at fault in the Waco situation. (I have a biased opinion since my uncle is ATF and worked the Waco case.) Also, at the time the land was purchased, the marriage with parental consent age was 14 (since raised to 16 I believe). Also marriage/birth/death records are sealed by law for a full generation if I’m not mistaken.</p>
<p>great pics here (can’t vouch for the site)…
<a href=“http://web.sccn2.net/flds/01-25-06.htm[/url]”>http://web.sccn2.net/flds/01-25-06.htm</a></p>
<p>I saw a special on Frontline (I think) about it - and the “compound” is actually very tough to infiltrate. But really, the cops know there are underage girls getting “married” off in there - but they are so afraid of another Waco.</p>
<p>Edit - It must not have been Frontline, since I don’t see it on their web site - but, hmmm, it was really in depth…</p>
<p>Holy cannoli!</p>
<p>isn’t it sad that we know that girls are being raped in a “religious” compound and do nothing, and that this “practice” is justified because God said so</p>
<p>afraid of another Waca? maybe, my hunch is that the feds don’t wnat to look like they are infringing on anyone “faith” heaven forbid</p>
<p>we worry so much about outside terrorist, we miss that we have compounds right her run by good ole "mericans</p>
<p>and weenie, you REALLY don’t know why they turn a blnd eye, I think you dooooo ;)</p>
<p>This case has been on court TV for a couple of weeks, and today, after 14 hours of deliberation, and announcing yesterday at court ending time, that they were very close to a verdict, they just wanted to sleep on it. Then they come in tody, and one of the jurors has had to be excused because of an “incident”. I didn’t here any more if the press found out what that was, just hope one of the “members” didn’t get to somebody! They replaced the juror with an alternate, and the deliberations continue! I need a shower just thinking about it…ewww!</p>
<p>Hmmmm. Why do the officials in Utah turn a blind eye? Why has this been allowed to continue for decades? Why have those lost boys been tossed out on their own mercy for so many years? Dunno, but it’s gotta be W’s fault somehow.</p>
<p>how do you build without inspectors to check plumbing, fire sprinkler systems, electrical work?</p>
<p>were they able to bulld that whole compound housing children with no inspections of anykind- sewers, etc</p>
<p>how is that possible, because you would think so</p>
<p>any building in California has to have plans approved, rules followed etc, does texas not do that?</p>
<p>in California all plans are public domain in office of at least the city and must past certain codes</p>
<p>does Texas not bother, because it they did, I would think people would know more about what is in that place then what they get from airplane photos</p>
<p>what about schooling, healthcare, birth records, and the like</p>
<p>why can;t the county or whoever go in and inspect the buildings for safey codes etc</p>
<p>really strange</p>