Immunization Coercion?

[citygirlsmom]

<p>I wonder, are there certain nations that don’t get the chicken pox like we do here? And if SOME are getting immunized, that means the likelyhood if getting chicken pox when you are younger will decrease, and if you get it when you are older, egad…that is bad news</p>

<p>my H didn’t have chicken pox as a child, nor did alot of his family (back in Ireland) and TWO got it when they were older…very painful indeed</p>

[Hanna]

<p>Whoops, saw your earlier post.</p>

[emeraldkity4]

<p>good question CGM</p>

<p>Sounds like its mainly a northern hemisphere thing- as Southern Hemisphere populations may have greater concerns with more virulent diseases, but also it sounds like the virus is not as prevalent in Southern Hemisphere
( doesn’t explain your husbands experience though)</p>

<p>From WHO

Public health impact</p>

<p>Varicella is a highly communicable viral disease with worldwide distribution. In temperate climates of the Northern Hemisphere, varicella occurs mainly in the period from late winter to early spring. Secondary attack rates reach close to 90% in susceptible household contacts. Varicella-zoster virus (VZV) is the causative agent and is transmitted by droplets, aerosol or direct contact, and patients are usually contagious from a few days before rash onset until the rash has crusted over. Once a case has occurred in a susceptible population, it is very hard to prevent an outbreak. As subclinical infection is rare, the disease is experienced by almost every human being. Sometimes, mild clinical infections may not be recognized or may be misdiagnosed. Thus, in temperate regions the majority of adults with a negative history for varicella are seropositive when tested.</p>

<p>In temperate climates most cases occur before the age of 10. The epidemiology is less well understood in tropical areas, where a relatively large proportion of adults in some countries are seronegative.

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[Nova10]

<p>The Lancet study stating there was a correlation between autism and thimerosal was one of the most flawed studies in recent history. There were 13 authors, and 10 of them, renounced the finding. The person in charge of that study has a vested interest to prove the cause. He picked people who he knew already had autism or something like that. In countries which don’t use thimerosal are compared to countries which use thimerosal in vaccines, there are no differences in autism rates. When you compare countries which use low versus high levels thimerosal in their vaccines, again no difference. The increase in autism rates has to do with better diagnosis and the inclusion of asperger’s syndrome into the category. Any way, FDA is requiring that all vaccines be thimerosal free shortly.
We know the old Small Pox vaccine has bad side effects, and that is why a new one is being studied and was recently approved by the FDA. The CDC stockpile is probably all the old vaccine, but over several years, they will phase in the new vaccine.
To find the efficacies of various vaccines, you have to go to the FDA. You can see the original approval rates. To find the long term data, normally studies are conducted to determine length of immunity. There is a debate on whether another pertussis vaccine should be given in high school. It appears you do need two shots of varicella for it to have lifelong immunity. Old Vaccinia last for only 10 years; we don’t know about new vaccinia.<br>
If anyone gets harmed by a vaccines in the U.S., VICP will compensate you and your family.</p>

[emeraldkity4]

<p>*anyone gets harmed by a vaccines in the U.S., VARES will compensate you and your family.
Yes I saw that
VHICP actually-
[HRSA</a> - National Vaccine Injury Compensation Program](<a href=“http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statistics_report.htm]HRSA”>http://www.hrsa.gov/vaccinecompensation/statistics_report.htm)
*</p>

<p>So I see the federal court case began in June- what was the decision?</p>

<p>[CDC</a> Study Finds Autism More Widespread than Previously Thought](<a href=“http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/02/cdc_autism.html]CDC”>http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2007/02/cdc_autism.html)
[Nation</a> & World | Vaccine-autism battle shifts to federal court | Seattle Times Newspaper](<a href=“http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003742807_vaccine11.html]Nation”>http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2003742807_vaccine11.html)</p>

[cartera45]

<p>What bothered me about the article is that it is not impetus enough for the kids to be kept out of school - they have to threaten to lock the parents up and fine them. What does that say about how important education is to parents in PG County?</p>

[BunsenBurner]

<p>Emeraldkity, this website describes HBV epidemiology well:</p>

<p>[Hepatitis</a> Epidemiology](<a href=“http://www.brown.edu/Courses/Bio_160/Projects2000/HepatitisB/epi.html]Hepatitis”>http://www.brown.edu/Courses/Bio_160/Projects2000/HepatitisB/epi.html)</p>

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Infection with HBV can be either acute or chronic. For acute infections, the incubation period of the virus is anywhere from 6 weeks to 6 months, and only 33 to 50% of older children and adults are symptomatic. An infection is classified as chronic when the individual has HBsAg present in his or her serum for more than 6 months. Chronic carriers are at higher risk for developing cirrhosis of the liver (chronic liver disease) or liver cancer (hepatocellular carcinoma).

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<p>There are also some interesting links at the bottom of this webpage.</p>