@LimboKid no they will not pull you over. There really is no enforcement. The governor has stated this in press conferences.
What’s your source for this info? Statements without citations are just rumors.
@austinmshauri I don’t have a link handy for you but I live in MA and have heard the governor say this more than once. Look at the link that @limbokid provided. It does not call it a requirement.
Oops. Just realized that I thought you were questioning me and you were questioning @LimboKid Sorry for the misunderstanding.
There aren’t enough cops to pull every out of state license plate over. Even if the cops do pull you over you haven’t violated the quarantine until you get where you’re going and then don’t stay there for 14 days. There is no practical way to enforce quarantines…it’s the honor system.
As far as having a negative test so many days before you leave…that’s fine but not fool proof. Better to test the kids when they arrive and have them quarantine until results are received. Still not fool proof but an improvement.
Quarantine requirements are also a moving target, as previously mentioned. NYC hasn’t really opened up yet, for example and neither has Philadelphia. When they do there will be an uptick in cases especially if that opening coincides with local colleges beginning their semester with an influx of students.
You know what they say about the best laid plans…
I wonder if NYS colleges will ask students to test before they come (if they can) the same way Maine was allowing visitors a few weeks ago who could show a negative test within 72 hours. I also know many schools are planning on testing upon arrival. Maybe that will be in lieu of quarantine.
The police are not enforcing this. They have much bigger problems to deal with not to mention in NYC they’ve been defunded.
What happens when one flies into a state that requires a quarantine? Is there any paperwork that is done on the plane to let anyone know you are entering the state?
I think it’s based on where the flight originated. That’s why people were playing games of having a stop over first.
Wow. Ok what if the state you’re flying to requires everyone to quarantine or show a test? Is someone at the airport checking for tests? Or is that something that happens at a hotel?
I don’t believe there is a set federal policy (like everything else with the virus) and its being done state by state. HI has been the strictest with fines and authorities doing random checks.
My sense is it’s mostly on the honor system but I don’t really know.
Chicago has a quarantine in effect too. They certainly do have access to passenger lists if they want them. Should be easy to find people in this day and age.
@momofsenior1 thanks. Things seems to change over time too. Right now, S19 and my H need to fly to Boston to get his dorm stuff from a friend’a house and then drive to Maine. MA requires people coming from most states to quarantine or have a negative test. Then Maine also expects the same from anyone driving in from MA. Not leaving for a while yet but should probably plan on getting them both tested. Just have to figure out the timing and make sure the tests come back quickly enough to be in the seven day window I guess.
You aren’t checked at the airport, at least in Maine.
Chicago’s quarantine is entirely on the honor system. Incoming visitors are notified by signage. No one, at least for now, is checking passenger lists or following up with hotels or colleges. Illinois is completely broke and it is unlikely police or any other agency will see any additional resources that would be necessary to enforce visitors quarantine restrictions.
The rule is akin to preaching to the choir. I guess the idea is to make people think twice about merely visiting, but not to discourage folks with legitimate business from coming to the city.
My son will be a freshman at a college in NYS and yes, he has to have a negative test within 7 days before arrival and then they are testing again 7 days after arrival. Cuomo is not messing around. And those coming from quarantine mandated states have to arrive 14 days early for strict quarantine in their room (meals delivered, no leaving room at all).
D’s school (in NY) is asking for proof of a negative test from 24-72 hours before arrival, test upon arrival for everyone, and test again 5-7 days after arrival. They have leased a local hotel to house quarantined students but I have no idea how it can handle everyone from an impacted state but I guess if you are negative before coming, negative upon arrival, and negative 5-7 days later then the population “might” be safe.
A friend has a coworker who went to SC from NY for a family reunion (!) and didn’t quarantine before heading back to work (!!) and found out the next day that relatives from the party tested positive (!!!). So many things wrong in this situation that it is easy to see how people can slip through the cracks.
I do think this is going to become a huge issue over the next few weeks. I don’t think a two-week quarantine requirement is sustainable for college students coming from other states for a fall term, especially laid down this close to the beginning of school. For example, the governor of Pennsylvania just added 4 states yesterday - bringing it to 19. Six weeks or so before school starts and families are supposed to figure this out?
In terms of enforcement, it seems to me the onus is going to be on the colleges. I don’t know if the states are telling them, “We’re watching” and holding them to it somehow. That’s my impression from my rising sophomore’s school which is not in PA (I just ran across that article this morning) but in another state asking quarantining from our state for the moment (this week the list will be updated). They have not been specific, but the hint I have picked up is that they are going to open campus housing two weeks early for those needing to quarantine (it is a smaller school. Not tiny, but not big either). The only official communication we’ve received - last week - said, “Students from states on the list will be contacted by the Student Life office.”
Not sure what we are going to do about that situation. I don’t want to engage that battle here, but it seems that there are other means to this end short of taking a healthy kid living in a home with healthy people eating healthy meals and sticking him in a dorm and telling him to sit by himself and eat takeout or dorm food for two weeks - requiring, for example, entering of a daily temperature record in an online health portal for two weeks and requiring a test.
Let’s put it this way - if he were a freshman, no way.
Here’s my other enormous problem with this - in the state I’m talking about the statement from the state is absolutely toothless as written. I can’t even call it a “requirement” or a “mandate.” It says, basically - if you’re coming from one of these hot spot states you “should” try to self-isolate and not go to school or work or anywhere you can’t maintain a safe distance. Here’s the kicker - it says …if you can maintain a safe distance, go ahead and go to school or work. The word “must” is not used - only “should.” No consequences are laid out in the state’s statement.
Basically: “Hey, try to stay six feet away from others and wear a mask. Okay?” Which is what everyone else will be doing, anyway. I’ve made my case to some powers that be - and I don’t know if there’s some consequences communicated to institutions on this score that aren’t communicated to the general public. Maybe. All I know is that my kid already has a single room assigned - no roommate - and can easily fulfill both the letter and spirit of this “quarantine” without going into complete isolation - because the state isn’t even asking that. None of it makes much sense to me.
where are you getting this info. we are attending school in NYS and have not been told about this yet. If this is the case we need to leave for NYS in 3 weeks. Now its 2 tests and strict 14 day quarantine? If they are negative 7 days after arrival should that shorten it (yes i know that it can take up to 14 days, but if you were not positive before you left, and then 7 days after you arrive the odds are.
Also to not even be allowed out to walk outside for even an hour . that is pretty cruel. Will the colleges have a way to enforce this? I guess Cuomo does not want out of out staters coming to college this fall if they are not from the Tri-state area . Also what does he do about those living off campus that have drove in. this is what likely drove Cornell to come up with their plan.
I hope that if NY gets a 2nd wave, that the states that were “banned” will return the favor to NY. At least in CT and NJ and MA they are being reasonable.
The information is directly from his college. I think each college has their own plan, so different schools in NYS will have different approaches. However, each plan has to be approved by the state, so I assume they will have similar requirements. It is a lot to ask of a kid to arrive on campus and be 100% isolated for their first 14 days, but it is indeed what they are requiring. We do not live in a state that is currently required to quarantine, but that could change any day and then he could need to arrive on campus Aug 1 like the others. Not sure what happens if our state is added to the list after Aug 1…I guess he would quarantine and take all remote courses until his 14 days are up? Fingers crossed that doesn’t become our reality.
@me29034 Not sure if that’s good or bad… a total honor system!
Back to the Forum topic here: Wanna see a preview to what might happen this fall? Let’s look at Cal now…
https://news.berkeley.edu/2020/07/08/social-gatherings-produce-increase-in-student-covid-19-cases/
Imagine what happens when thousands of kids from CA, FL and TX descend upon the 35 colleges in the Greater Boston area or 75+ colleges in the Greater New York City area. They might as well test who doesn’t have the virus by October. The schools can control whatever happens on campus. But unless they lock us up like in real prisons, there’s no way for any control or monitoring of who goes where to see/make friends. From a few news reports, some summer school kids are holding parties to celebrate getting the virus so now they have immunity to do whatever they want. Maybe my mom is right, a ticking virus time bomb this fall…
You can read about Hawaii’s 14-day quarantine here:
https://hidot.hawaii.gov/coronavirus/