Referring back to my earlier messages, NY state is serious. It maybe take a few days or a couple of weeks to trickle down the enforcement from Manhattan to smaller towns, but so far in this pandemic what Albany wants, Albany gets.
My friend is from White Plains NY who’s heading to Cornell this fall. She arrived today from Florida having spent the 4th with grandparents. She said they gave out forms to everyone and told them their forms would be matched with airline manifests. Those who don’t fill out the form or falsify information will receive a 2 grand fine in the mail. She’s from NY and imagine what they will do to people from states on the quarantine list. NY is famous for a “fine now, dispute later” approach in issues traffic tickets. Now they are going to town with this pandemic quarantine fine. Draconian? Yup. Avoidable? No.
@CottonTales@mbinacan44 Pretty sure hotels do their own thing just like some bars were secretly open before the re-opening. When, how, and if the state will fine them, no one ones. But if a fine does come in, it won’t be small. As for a hotel charging a couple of hundreds a night, maybe they did the math and thought it was worth the fine.
@ucbalumnus Think there are still more states not on the quarantine list than on it. For example, New England and NJ are still in the NY safety bubble.
@cptofthehouse Agree on how rapidly the situation is evolving. But to add a state on the quarantine list takes a couple of days of case increase. To come off, it will take at least two weeks of flattening or dropping count of cases and deaths.
Just heard on XM radio that some towns are setting up barricades at some upstate exits along the interstates. Sort of like Italian towns in late February…
Beginning Tuesday, July 14th, a travel enforcement operation will commence at airports statewide to help ensure travelers coming into New York are following the state’s quarantine.
Not as easy to enforce with drivers. Not saying no one will be stopped by police but you aren’t violating the quarantine just because you’re driving in NY. They have to show you didn’t quarantine for the 14 days.
Guidance for Travel
The travel advisory is effective at 12:01 am on Thursday, June 25, 2020. If you have traveled from within one of the designated states with significant community spread as defined by the metrics above, you must quarantine when you enter New York for 14 days from the last travel within such designated state, provided on the date you enter into New York State that such state met the criteria for requiring such quarantine.
The requirements of the travel advisory do not apply to any individual passing through designated states for a limited duration (i.e., less than 24 hours) through the course of travel. Examples of such brief passage include but are not limited to: stopping at rest stops for vehicles, buses, and/or trains; or lay-overs for air travel, bus travel, or train travel.
The travel advisory requires all New Yorkers, as well as those visiting from out of state, to take personal responsibility for complying with the advisory in the best interest of public health and safety. To file a report of an individual failing to adhere to the quarantine pursuant to the travel advisory, please call 1-833-789-0470 or visit this website: https://mylicense.custhelp.com/app/ask. Individuals may also contact their local department of Heath.
So you can report someone but they’re basically relying on the honor system.
You can google further. Sussex county’s DE, particularly in Seaford were chasing out Dorchester county, MD shippers , many who live much closer to the Walmart, Lowe’s and other shipping in Seaford than in Cambridge or Salisbury , MD. I personally know a number of people affected. I worked in the Delmarva area during the tax season— corporate offices in Wilmington, but my area was the Eastern Shore. Of MD and I’d go across state lines quite a bit. I did have my essential workers pass ready to show if stopped. Never happened to me but did for co-workers. Wondering now if MD will return the favor. Interesting that Delaware is on the NY watch list, but MD is not right now
@cptofthehouse your linked article is from April. The travel ban in DE was lifted over a month ago. The way your initial comment was worded, I thought you were indicating that this was currently happening in DE.
The hotels in the area around Clarkson University in Potsdam are not allowing parents who have to bring their kids for the quarantine on Aug 1 to make reservations. This is a quote from a parent : “I just spoke with the Hampton Inn where our reservations are and they are not allowing any travelers from out of state to stay at their hotel…per Cuomo orders.” She did clarify later that it was only the hotspot states. Local parents have actually offered campers to families having to bring kids from these states.
Back in April, it was worrisome to travel from Maryland through Delaware , NJ into NY with NY ID. NYers were toxic and , yes, cars were being stopped in De , for certain with MD and NY plates.
Now? i don’t know how extensively NY is going to be enforcing the rules about quarantining those coming from certain states. I know that Delaware and other states that had rules regarding NYers were not catching the majority of the influx coming into their stated. I traveled with a NY ID with impunity. No one ever stopped and questioned me. I was not tracked.
So these new rules…we’ll see how they are enforced. Many hotels and venues are not going to care about the quarantine And there is no way the NY police are going to be able to catch everyone breaking the rules. It will be up to the individual colleges as to what rules will be enforced. There will be sporadic people caught , as they were when De was imposing their restrictions
I’m sorry I was not clear. Right now I don’t believe DE is imposing restrictions— states are imposing restrictions for DE residents. But DE was guarding its borders and shopping centers in April against neighboring MD folks, I know. I found it interesting as Sussex county had a higher infect rate even at that time than MD’s adjoining Eastern Shore.
Barricades were put up in April in Delaware to prevent Marylanders from coming into the state. To that I can attest. Whether NY, NJ will do the same , we do not know.
For 90 straight days March 16 to June 16, I risked my life and exposing my family as a first responder in Northern NJ. I carried countless body bags and saw enough death and sickness to last a lifetime. Whats the penalty if you come here and infect me because of your ignorance and arrogance to rules??? As @MaineLonghorn and others have said: follow the rules
Wear a mask
Social Distant
Good hygiene
repeat
Be assured, if I see you not doing any of the above, I’ll tell you to your face