<p>I graduated from Penn State and will be moving back there permanently (from NY) in the next few months. My daughter will be starting there this fall as it turns out. </p>
<p>I realize that she is considered an OSS this first year, but at some point it seems that if her parents are living permanently in PA, she should/will be considered an ISS for tuition purposes… I can’t seem to find a clear answer to this question. Any answers, specific to PA or generic, are appreciated.</p>
<p>I don’t know about Penn State specifically - but in general - to prove you are in-state - you need things like a Drivers license in that state, voter registration in that state and filing a tax return in that state. So - as soon as you relocate - I would take care of the DL and voter registration asap - and then contact Penn State to get whatever paperwork you need to complete to prove you are now a PA resident.</p>
<p>I would think that if you move to Pennsylvania prior to her starting the school year, she might be able to get in-state tuition for her first year as well. Schools look at the domicile of the parents for a student under 24. I assume you’ll be working in Pennsylvania, getting your drivers’ license there, registering to vote there, etc. Penn State has a process for challenging the residency determination, with specific items you need to submit.</p>
<p>In GA, you need to move to the state > 12 months before starting college to be eligible for in-state classification. There could be a case-by-case exception made for kids of parents whose jobs brought them to the state (but not for folks who came to the state looking for employment).</p>
<p>Here’s a good place to start:</p>
<p>[Undergraduate</a> Degree Programs: General Information](<a href=“http://bulletins.psu.edu/bulletins/bluebook/general_information.cfm?section=Tuition2]Undergraduate”>http://bulletins.psu.edu/bulletins/bluebook/general_information.cfm?section=Tuition2)</p>
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<p>And here’s a thorough list of the documents needed for the appeal:</p>
<p><a href=“http://www.bursar.psu.edu/appeal.cfm[/url]”>http://www.bursar.psu.edu/appeal.cfm</a></p>
<p>This link also tells how to file the appeal, who to call with questions, etc.</p>
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<p>That you graduated from Penn State will have no bearing at all on your daughter’s instate vs. out of state status at Penn State. The thing that matters is where you reside the year BEFORE you enroll there. </p>
<p>In MOST cases (and this can be very school specific even with public universities in the same state), you must reside in the state a FULL YEAR prior to being considered an instate resident. SO…if you are moving in a few months, it’s not likely that your daughter will be considered as an instate resident for the 2011-2012 school year (because you were not residents of PA 12 months prior to that school year beginning). </p>
<p>However she MIGHT be considered an instate resident for subsequent years. The following is from the Penn State website. I would suggest you contact them directly to see how this all applies to your situation.</p>
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<p>Based on #1, I think your D should be considered PA resident from the first year if you move before fall (“A student under the age of 21 is presumed to have the domicile of his/her parent(s) or legal guardian(s)”).</p>
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<p>Ah…but here’s number three. Really…call the school and ask them. You ARE moving to Pennsylvania. The question is when and how can your daughter be considered an instate resident.</p>
<p>Always best to check with the school for the definitive answers.</p>
<p>Note residency rules apply to the student, not the parent. The #1 rule means the student has OOS residency since her parents did not live instate for a year before she started. She likely can claim instate residency for the state she graduated from HS in for years to come, regardless of whether her parents (you) move.</p>
<p>From now on your adult child won’t get to claim your state of residency as her own for any college. It’s a paradigm shift for parents. You may pay the bills but it’s your child’s game now. Privacy laws mean you have to get her permission to find out anything. Claiming her on your IRS tax forms does not give her your residency status.</p>
<p>Your college only possibly matters for admissions, not residency status. </p>
<p>Many states have tough OOS tuition rules to avoid parents conveniently moving to their state so their kids can get instate tuition (owning property doesn’t make one a resident- the vacation home, for example). The time to make any such moves is at least 12 months before the child starts college and therefore is also a HS grad in that state. Many states also have the clause regarding attending school- a full time job would be needed by the student for one year before being able to claim residency.</p>
<p>The corollary is that students get to keep claiming the state they graduated from HS in as their home state even if their parents move after their graduation. Parents don’t need to remain in the state during the college years.</p>
<p>…and many thanks to all of you… I’ll be very happy to be able to get IS tuition for the 2nd year on… next stop, speaking to the university.</p>
<p>It’s too bad that Penn State does not offer tuition assistance for out-of-state students who are children of alumni. Many state schools waive or discount the out-of-state fees with a specific GPA. I could not find anything on the Penn State site that indicates they do that. It couldn’t hurt to ask, however, if you haven’t already done so.</p>
<p>Olderwisermom - I’ve heard of state schools that waive or discount out-of-state fees for a specific GPA or test score. I didn’t know any did it for children of alumni, I thought that only helped with admission. Is there a central list anywhere on CC that lists schools and the requirements for waiving out of state tuition. Would I be correct in thinking most are outside the Northeast?</p>
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<p>from Penn State Website</p>
<p>Since the admissions office initially determines a student’s residency status, they would be the place where your inquiries should be directed. Right now, all the information that the admissions office has says that you are living in a state other than Pennsylvania.</p>
<p>In Georgia - PA may be similar - owning or leasing a place to live in the state isn’t enough to establish domicile. You must cut all ties to your former state, have an income sufficient to be autonomous in the new state, and any reliance on financial support from outside the state invalidates your claim to in-state status.</p>