In the long run, are IB kids smarter?

<p>I’ve always been interested to be in IB, but my parents insisted I go to a different school (homeschooling :frowning: ) Anyways, I’ve always felt that IB kids are a lot smarter, and I’m wondering if that’s true. Of course this is very subjective, but what do you guys think…I feel like i’m not learning as much as IB Student are… :(</p>

<p>It all depends on how you measure intelligence, but in a general perspective I’d say they are not generally smarter, because there are many kids that just don’t have the opportunity to do IB and therefore cannot. This doesn’t make them any dumber.</p>

<p>^well what about in term of knowledge and future success in college?</p>

<p>I don’t know if it’s better - just different. It’s a more open-ended education. The example one teacher gave was of an IB science class assignment. The students were told, “OK, today you’re going to do an experiment with water.” When they asked the teacher for specifics, she said, “It’s up to you - you can design any kind of experiment you want, as long as it involves water.” That would have driven ME nuts, but I think my two younger kids would do OK with it.</p>

<p>It’s a good question - I’ll be interested to hear what IB students think about it.</p>

<p>Depends, because I have a friend with amazing esoteric knowledge and is a master at Academic Team, but struggles to get As in classes, he’s one of the best retainers of knowledge I know, but his critical thinking skills are limited. You can’t really define knowledge without being very specific in certain areas, and I don’t think it reflects future success since everyone’s playing field is leveled in college, A kid in IB may be smart, but a kid in AP who wants to take AP art and explore those areas may be just as smart, there’s to many factors to narrow it down to</p>

<p>IB vs. Non-IB</p>

<p>Smarter than who?</p>

<p>No. They’re just more stressed-out.</p>

<p>well, not really smarter but learn more. I mean, they have a very long essay on all of the material they’ve learned the past 4 years, and a very long essay to do, and I feel like you learn much more than AP (where you just study for the exam, and then you can forget it all). Also, i would assume they would be able to handle stress much more better than other high school students…right?</p>

<p>Not this thread again.</p>

<p>I didn’t see any other thread like this…so what you mean “Not this thread again.”, bruh?</p>

<p>Why the rush? You can learn to handle stress in college. High school’s a good time to relax with friends. </p>

<p>Perhaps IB students learn more, perhaps they don’t. I’ve always preferred having time to pursue intellectual interests outside of the purview of schoolwork. For some people, this is less of a concern. It’s all up to the individual.</p>

<p>Your issue is not whether you are smarter than IB students, but whether your parents are smarter than IB teachers.</p>

<p>If you want actual data, however, here’s a summary of some research on IB college acceptance rates and college success:</p>

<p><a href=“Redirect Notice”>Redirect Notice;

<p>Here’s their promo piece:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ibo.org/announcements/succeedincollege.cfm[/url]”>500;

<p>Here’s some accompanying research:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.ibo.org/research/policy/programmevalidation/diploma/[/url]”>500;

<p>Here’s an opinion piece in re IB’s relationship to gifted education:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/ib_or_not_ib.htm[/url]”>http://www.hoagiesgifted.org/ib_or_not_ib.htm&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>That’s not a fair metric to use.</p>

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<p>Lab Report</p>

<p>Observation: Teacher did not respond kindly to a bucket of water thrown in her face.</p>

<p>Hypothesis: Teacher’s statements and directions should not always be taken literally.</p>

<p>Further Observations: Teacher directed me “to march [myself] up to the principal’s office right now.” Did not respond well to the contention that the principal’s office is not “up,” but rather south-west of the classroom. This observation further confirms my hypothesis.</p>

<p>^haha, lol…exactly</p>

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I wasn’t referring to genetics, but to the fact that OP is homeschooled. If his parents are better teachers than the IB teachers, he should have a good outcome. If not, not.</p>

<p>JimboSteve, I like your experiment!</p>

<p>Some parents in our district are deciding NOT to put their smart kids into IB because of the stress. My son is taking IB English. He marches to his own drummer and has a 75 in it right now. He is either going to be a multi-millionaire or end up living on the streets!</p>

<p>^ Hey, hey, there’s plenty of middle ground here. I doubt a C in an advanced high school English course will preclude him from college, much less home ownership.</p>

<p>As an IB kid, I do think that being in IB makes you smarter but that is just like AP classes make you smarter too. I think IB definitely stretches your min and you end up with better skills than you have before. We do an immense amount of writing and you will definitely improve your writing skills. You are taught to analyze and criticize things more than if you were in non-IB classes. Personally, I feel like being in IB and taking classes like TOK have broadened my mind and I actually consider all different aspects of an issue. I know that sounds corny but its true. :slight_smile: Also, being in IB helped me with the SAT essay because I am used to having to write in-class essays in 20 minutes. With IB, I have gotten use to writing longer essays too. When I was a freshman or sophomore, writing a 4,000 word essay scared me but now I feel like it will not be that hard. IB kids will complain about the stress and the general pointlessness of IB(because it’s harder to get college credit) but I think a lot of them would do the program anyway. In the long run, you will leave IB a lot smarter then when you entered but I think AP will do that to you too. IT just depends on which program you want.</p>