<p>Does anyone recall the thread about this? Did they confront the adult who was acting inappropriately?
I was just talking to my sister in law and for the second time a teacher in her school district was caught having sex with a young girl. In both instances these men had taught with her and she reported their inappropriate conduct to the principal. She challenged both of these male teachers on their behavior. One even charged her with creating a hostile work environment. He is now in jail after being caught in the act with a 16 year old. My sil is no shrinking violet and she lambasted both the teacher and principal when she was charged. The hostile work environment charge went nowhere. The sleazy teacher started to cry and told the principal about how he was hoping she would be a mentor to him but instead she gave him a tough time. She told him he was a pervert and should not be a teacher and if she ever witnessed any more of his inappropriate conduct she would drag him down to the principal. They transferred him and within the year he was arrested.
The second teacher was assigned to work with her. She reported to the principal that he was lazy, acted inappropriately around the students and she would not hire him. When the school did hire him she told the principal not to dare let him work in their school. He was working at another middle school when he was arrested for sending inappropriate text messages to a 14 year old. He was also charged with sexual assault.
Now I do not think my sil is overly popular with her principal since she does not take much guff but I wonder if they will have enough sense to listen to her in the future.</p>
<p>The parents of those kids should sue the school and the principal (and the perpetrator). I assume the principal can be held liable since the equivalent in the corporate world would be in a similar sexual harassment case - i.e. where it was reported but inadequately handled. Note - I’m not a lawyer.</p>
<p>There seem to be a lot of these teacher molestation cases. Maybe it’s a matter of some people with those inclinations being drawn to an environment where they’ll be able to be surrounded by their objects of desire - aka victims.</p>
<p>Good for your SIL!</p>
<p>uscd- she will never be one of the “popular” teachers, not that she cares, since she is strict and does not try to be their friend. Knowing her as well as I do I can only hope the kids are wise enough to get the example she sets for them as they mature.
I think many if not most of these teachers caught molesting students are known to their colleagues. The other teachers need to confront them and the school administration about it.</p>
<p>Don’t recall the exact thread, but if I recall it was a parent volunteer who helped the coach?</p>
<p>Read the news and you will find that more female teachers are accused of these sex crimes than male teachers. Though the law treats any male accused much more harshly. </p>
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<p>toblin - perhaps it’s because the teaching profession is dominated by females (there are just more of them).</p>
<p>tom1944, I think this is the thread you are remembering: <a href=“http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/667009-overly-sexual-parent.html[/url]”>http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/parent-cafe/667009-overly-sexual-parent.html</a></p>
<p>Mary- that is the thread.</p>
<p>Read the news and you will find that more female teachers are accused of these sex crimes than male teachers.</p>
<p>Havent seen that.
Actually both men and women report being harrassed by men.</p>
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<p>And this, of course, is way beyond harassment.</p>
<p>It’s amazing how often people are not taken seriously when they warn the “higher ups” that another adult is not acting appropriately.</p>
<p>I don’t mean to be sexist, but it seems to me that when women notice that men are behaving sexually inappropriate with others and the women report that to a superior (who is male), they are rarely taken seriously. </p>
<p>Ok…I’m going to be sexist here…I do think that women have a better “radar” and pick up on cues that men (or whoever) aren’t acting sexually appropriate. </p>
<p>At a junior high school, there was a male PE teacher who was acting inappropriately with a female student. The vibes were obvious. The women (teachers and moms) noticed and reported it. The principal’s response was, “Well, I asked him if anything inappropriate was going on and he said, no.” ( LOL …what a moron!!! ) Some time later they were caught in the school parking lot together.</p>
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<p>Sexual harassment, abuse, rape, and domestic violence cases are often ignored and covered up. It’s not necessarily a man v. woman thing, but just the all-too-common and reprehensible desire to avoid “rocking the boat”. The way these higher-ups see it, it takes a lot of paperwork and a lot of headaches to sort through these complaints; after all, they might be vindictive and frivolous, or the case itself might be nebulous, and if you make a clumsy move you can wind up mired in lawsuits for many years to come which can derail your career and stop you from moving to that nice, comfy sinecure at a middle school over in Upper Suburbia. Sure, there might be some sort of ethical stuff that might get in the way, but who’s ever going to find out, right? Besides, it’s only statutory rape. Those students are practically adults anyway; do you see the way they dress these days? Prosti-tots, amiright?</p>
<p>And it usually does, doesn’t it? We don’t hear about all the cases where there wasn’t someone like the OP’s sister-in-law who is brave enough and tenacious enough to keep pressing the issue until something happens. What happens in cases where the conduct is either never reported or the person who does report it is successfully cowed or browbeaten into silence? Something serious could be going on and no one would ever do anything about it.</p>
<p>In the case that I described above, all the principal would have had to have done is to quietly observe from afar. He would have noticed the flirting, excessive “non-sexual” touching each other, sharing the same drink/straw that would be normal between two equals in a relationship, but inappropriate between teacher and student.</p>
<p>mom2- unless a man is blind he would notice the inappropriate contact between a teacher and a student. Heck I work with adults ranging from 25-75 and I notice when an adult male over 40 is acting inappropriately towards the younger women in the office. I think your principal did not want to call the teacher out on the issue.</p>
<p>Okay- so here is a problem. I was reading AOL news and there is a link that Miey Cyrus’s dad defends her dance. Seems Miley gave a lap dance to a 44 year old producer at a wrap party. Her dad says- that is just what teens her age do. Sorry he is just stupid and the 44 year old is an idiot. I can not imagine any reasonable 44 year old allowing a 16 year old to give him a lap dance. Hey I can not imagine an adult male allowing a teen to just sit on his lap.
Sorry- I did not watch the video so I can not tell you how graphic it was. I do not need to see to know it was inappropriate.</p>
<p>When my son was a HS senior he was the TA for a science teacher. The teacher who was in his forties ended up dating and marrying a student who was also a senior. According to my son several students and parents had reported this guy for sketchy behavior and the administration did nothing. At one point my son asked him point blank if something was going on between the two of them and the teacher lied to his face.
If I had been the parent of one of the girls this guy had approached before he settled on the one he married I would have hit the roof.<br>
As far as the Miley thing goes, I was chaperoning a group of girls that age on a cruise once. One of the mothers allowed her D to lie about her age and participate in a cruise even that basically meant the D sat in a chair while older men gave her a lap dance. I was disgusted and left the area. All the Mom could talk about was how mature her D was and how cool it was that the cruise ship personnel thought she was 18. Yuk!</p>
<p>I believe Miley is 18. Still creepy though! </p>
<p>When I was in hs, our band director had just come to our hs from another school where he had lead their band to many gold medals in competitions. Why did he leave there? A few weeks after graduation one year he became engaged to a new grad who had been the drum major that year. Their school board gave him the boot. I always admired them for it, too.</p>
<p>Let me repeat that adults, especially teachers or others in positions of authority, are NEVER justified in having relationships or behaving inappropriately with teenagers. That said, I work in a hs and I have sympathy for the male teachers. The girls look like women, and some of them try to act like women. We have a dress code but it’s rarely enforced. Some of the girls walk around in low cut, fitted shirts even in the winter. You can’t HELP but look at their boobs, because they’re pushed out into your face. I say this as the mother of a teenage girl - it’s all you can see when some of these girls are talking to you! Its really difficult for the male administrators (we had 2 women administrators but they have both moved onward and upward to other districts, and due to budget cuts their positions weren’t filled) to enforce the dress code without being put in the very awkward position of having to point out to the girls exactly how the girls are breaking the dress code! Their mere mentioning, “Your shirt is very low cut and your breasts are too exposed” is unbelievably awkward, and can be interpreted as their paying attention and harassing the girls. Some of the girls are very flirty, and some of them have had crushes on the younger men teachers. Again, there is ZERO excuse for ANY adult teacher or administrator to be inappropriate with a teen, but some of these men have to go to fairly extreme lengths to be sure they’re never accused of anything. For example, our custodians and maintenance people will not go in to clean or do a repair in a room if there is a lone student in the room (male or female). </p>
<p>Reminds me of the Police song, “Don’t Stand So Close To Me.”</p>
<p>It goes both ways, too. I was at the beach with a group from D’s dance studio. One middle-school dancer had a 16 year old brother who was an athlete. He had a body that could have modeled swimsuits. Another mom noticed him and said, “Who IS that?” We told her it was so-and-so’s brother. “He’s cute.” Yes, we smiled, he is. She went on, “He’s REALLY cute.” She wouldn’t let it go, no matter how quiet the rest of us got and how much we cleared our throats. Finally one mom practically yelled, “He’s SIXTEEN! He’s a CHILD!” The other mom hushed, but my daughter overheard her later commenting on him again. I guess this lady thought she was a cougar? I was tempted to tell the boy’s mom - she’d have straightened that creepy mom out with her fists!</p>
<p>I agree it is sometimes difficult not to notice an attractive young girl but we should have some inner control of what is appropriate.
16,18,21 I can not justify a 40-50 year old man getting a lap dance without him looking like a pervert. As to how do you handle it when a young women acts or dresses inappropriately- in the case of the lap dance he should have placed his hand on her upper back and gently pushed her away as he stood up. He should have quietly told he that he was uncomfortable with her action.
For students dressed in the manner described the male administrator should have a female employee sit with him and just say-“we do not dress that way at school” . I think she would get the message.</p>
<p>I was getting a cup of coffee a few days ago, and the other people in line were some 40-60 year old men and a couple of girls who appeared to me to be around 18, although it was hard to tell. The girls were wearing flip-flops and the type of shorts that barely cover the buttocks and groin. (The kind that basically give no more coverage than underpants or a bathing suit bottom.) Their upper garments were skin tight. BTW, the temperature here is still in the 50s most of the time. It’s not like they “have to” dress like this because it’s hot.</p>
<p>I was really wondering where a 40 yr old guy is supposed to look and how he is supposed to react when girls are parading around in public in highly provocative outfits like these. Obviously they want guys to ogle them.</p>