<p>Hi I’ve been admitted to USC and UCI as a political science major.
My plan is to study international law at NYU, but I couldn’t find the statistics on undergraduate schools of NYU law’s student class profiles.</p>
<p>Tuition aside, which undergraduate institution will give me a better chance at NYU Law?</p>
<p>USC. Just look at the class profile of entering students at HLS, Yale, Stanford, and you’ll see that there are far more USC students than UCI, although it may be that there are more USC students that apply to the top tier schools than UCI students. I read a post with some statistics with this some time ago- once I find the link I will post it here</p>
<p>It won’t make a difference. If you controlled for stats, I doubt you’d see a disparity in law school admission rates for students from these schools. It shouldn’t affect your decision at all.</p>
<p>I agree with Americanski. It will not make any difference whether you go to USC or UCI. Just beware that NYU Law School is very difficult to get into.</p>
<p>Not necessarily. It will definitely give you more edge if you are a USC graduate, than a UCI graduate. UCI is a good school, yet it is not up to the standard of USC in terms of prestige. Hence, law schools will see that you were chosen into a school that was most selective (USC), and therefore the courses you take at USC will be given more weight than the courses at UCI. I am being really plain here. I have worked for a company and the manager literally does not even look at resumes unless they are from UCB, UCLA or USC. If tuition is not a problem, I’d say go to USC. Rank, prestige, employment statistics show that USC is a better institution, and I am sure Law schools will lean towards this too.</p>
<p>yhj1012: actually, it would give the OP no significant edge at all if he went to USC vs UCI. you are making an entirely improper comparison between how law school admission committees @ NYU would react to school prestige (and adcoms @ law schools in general) vs. how managers at your company have used prestige as a significant factor for hiring an applicant. for the T14 law schools (of course NYU included), the prestige difference attached to USC vs UCI will be extremely, extremely (w/ great emphasis) negligible. even the prestige of an Ivy league undergrad is not given too much weight. all else equal, in a showdown between an applicant earning a 3.4 at an Ivy league vs an applicant earning a 3.9 at UCI, the UCI student have a better chance at being admitted.</p>
<p>mjk0330: law school admissions is largely just a numbers game --LSAT/GPA. therefore, visit both schools. see which you like better. if you decide you want to go to USC over UCI, then ask yourself the necessary question: can I earn a GPA at USC that will make me competitive as an applicant to NYU law school?</p>
<p>when i was a senior deciding where to attend college, i asked myself a similar question about UCB vs UCI and other schools. even though UCB was one of my dream undergrad schools, i decided affirmatively against attending because i had doubts that i could maintain a competitive GPA at UCB for when i decide to apply for law school. never regretted my decision since-- especially because i am planning to apply to UCB for law and Boalt is notorious for giving great weight to applicants with high GPAs.</p>
<p>crimsonpham, just type class profile for all the t14 law schools. They say that most of their students come from Harvard,Yale,Stanford,UCB,UCLA,and I have seen a few USC, but never UCI as anywhere near as much as those others just listed above. And on your premise that a 3.4 at an Ivy league vs an applicant at UCI earning a 3.9, no the UCI student does not AT ALL have a better chance at being admitted. Law schools know that Ivy leagues institutions are MUCH harder and MUCH more competitive than say UCI (specific to for this example), and hence the Ivy league applicant’s gpa will be interpreted with this factor. </p>
<p>Also, who says earning a good grade at USC is harder than UCI?</p>
<p>from everything i’ve read about college admissions, a 3.4 at an ivy will not trump a 3.9 (or probably even a 3.8 for that matter) at a strong public school.</p>
<p>yhj1012, I do not think there is much difference in prestige between USC and UCI. You also need to provide us data in saying that there are more USC students than UCI students in an entering class in T14 law schools. USC is a much older institution than UCI and there will generally be more USC students attending those law schools in the past. In short, it is you that matters and not whether you attend USC or UCI.</p>
<p>yhj1012: to see what you are talking about, what internet database do you suggest I use when typing in “class profile for all the t14 law schools”?</p>
<p>as I stated to the OP, law school admissions is largely a numbers game. in general, an applicant’s GPA & LSAT needs to be close to the median of the target school or s/he will likely be rejected, if not, luckily, waitlisted. again like I said, all else equal (and by this I mostly mean LSAT score), in a showdown between an applicant earning a 3.4 at an Ivy league vs an applicant earning a 3.9 at a number of other less presigious school, UCI included, the applicant with a 3.9 will have a higher chance of being admitted at a T-14 school.</p>
<p>look at this NYU admissions plot here for 2008-2009: [LSN</a> :: New York University - Admissions Graph](<a href=“Recently Updated J.D. Profiles | Law School Numbers”>Recently Updated J.D. Profiles | Law School Numbers)</p>
<p>cross reference it with the previous years.</p>
<p>Ivy or no Ivy, unless you have higher than a 172 LSAT score (75th percentile @ NYU) or you’re considered a URM, with a 3.5 GPA, your chances of being admited are slim to none. it’s all in the magic numbers.</p>