Same, count me in!
I’d be interested, so count me in as well!
Same, I’d love to join.
I’m days too late, but count me in!
Thanks @thegoldenage for making this page. I am definitely interested! I was thinking about this earlier, and I had some related ideas. I will message you later today about them because I’d like to hear your input before I bog down this discussion with it.
This sounds interesting, I’d like to join.
I’m interested as well.
I’m interested in this.
Everyone will receive a message within this next week!
Alright thanks!
I’m late, but I’d like to join as well if there’s any more room left.
Did anyone get messages yet?
Let’s cut the "I’m in!"s and get to the meat.
@Cosmological
About your post on social pressure–conflict does make people stronger. Diamond is just carbon that has been subjected to extreme pressure. But I don’t believe anyone should have to ever face any conflict. There’s two extremes to how humans can behave: in the interest of freedom or in the interest of safety.
We’ve been reading Ayn Rand in class and I’ve made a distinction that a lot of authors have had in their works including Orwell and Huxley. In all of their novels (Anthem, Brave New World, 1984), freedom has existed before. I want to see a world in which freedom has never existed and everything is done in the interest of human preservation.
I like to throw this back into entropy though–collectivism is way simpler than independence is. The individual, I believe, is a product of entropy. As time goes on, energy will disperse and chaos is inevitable. I think that if a truly collectivist society were to exist, freedom would inevitably be dreamed up. The whole notion of “I” would sooner or later be discovered, regardless if it had existed in the past. And from then on, the notion of “the greater good” would die because humans are naturally greedy and the mere thought of only doing things in the interest of others is unappealing in the face of individualism.
So basically, I’d mind control everyone to be nice to each other if I could 
It sounds… wrong, yes, but I think that’s because people just are greedy. I’m greedy as hell, too–it’s a universal human characteristic. Altruism exists, but greed eventually triumphs.
But I think such a world where no conflict–social or not–cannot exist simply because the idea of freedom exists in our world. Oh sure, North Korea can try to hide it all they want, but the people that do find out that foreigners can do as they please make it their objective to escape their society. Why? I blame greed. Take note that I don’t see greed as a negative characteristic. It’s just a neutral one, IMO.
There’s a hundred ways I could have responded to your post on social pressure (which I agree in the context of our world… in my little perfect collectivist world, no pressure of any sort would exist) and I’m sorry if this is totally off course. I could have posted about how I deal with social pressure or why social pressure even exists. Oh well, we’ll see where this goes.
Hi everyone, I have been messaging thegoldenage these past few weeks, and we have been discussing our hopes and plans for this circle. Soon, we will set up our first discussion (probably on Google Hangouts). Thank you all for expressing interest, and I can’t wait to get this started!
Thanks Xenmas for your thoughts!
Hello, everyone! I just left a message in all of your CC inboxes. Please let me know if I missed you!
Is it still open