International SAT October 2012: Y U NO discuss?

<p>zhshzh44</p>

<p>Choice A said 'The civil war ended, the Supreme court focused…"
I clearly remember there was the word ‘ended.’ This is a comma splice.</p>

<p>I also choice E. ‘Once the Civil War has ended, the Supreme court focused…’
‘has ended’ is not wrong because the Civil War is still ended until now. A and B are clearly comma splice.</p>

<p>@coldflame
TOK? Are you taking IB classes?</p>

<p>No, for the writing question, it was “The war officially over,” The answer was A.</p>

<p>Does anyone remember question 14 of section 10. The tent question about how he found it difficult to choose between x and y etc. Does anyone remember the options/question?</p>

<p>@Steck, I just googled “echolation” “bright” “red” “flamingo”</p>

<p>@ wlsnehf
you clearly got it wrong, it was ’ the civil war over, the Supreme court …’
However, as for E, has ended is present perfect , which has the effect of present, not of the past while ‘the Supreme court focused…’ is something about past</p>

<p>I had “quiescent and exacting”</p>

<p>^ same.</p>

<p>Also, the author changed the terms of discussion from paying college athletes to investing the profits in to better academics.</p>

<p>I think I had C for the garden writing one.</p>

<p>“We may never understand how bats perceive” was definitely wrong. I can’t remember the other answers though. i think this was the “humans can see naturally and effortlessly”</p>

<p>And the author’s point with the “This is not a metaphor” was to emphasize the similarities between human and bats sensing, or something.</p>

<p>Also, the crowd was part of the spectacle, not exhibit.</p>

<p>Guys, which one was experimental? According to the Nov 2010 thread, these were not experimental: Echolocation, College Athletes, Bats, Music. So which one was the dummy? I can’t remember any other sections than these.</p>

<p>@coldflame
question 14 's answer should be A
A: chose between doing X and Y
B: chose between dong X or Y ( should be ‘and’)
C: chose either doing X and doing Y(should be ‘or’)
D: forgotton
E: chose between doing X and to do Y( should be paralelled)</p>

<p>@Maxyend, why do you think it was to “emphasise the similarities between Humans and Bats” </p>

<p>The sentence right after the metaphor was literally talking about how females may actually perceive male bats really as bright red. So he was clearly trying to support his previous statement by emphasising that they really must send out signals or whatever.</p>

<p>the one with the art critic is dummy</p>

<p>@zh</p>

<p>Were all of the A, B, and C parallel form? Do you remember the phrasing more? I think I remember “investigating” “going outside” etc</p>

<p>@Coldflame</p>

<p>Because they may sense a male’s texture in the same way we perceive colour, which is a similarity, not a difference.</p>

<p>I agree that the paragraph was talking a lot about how they sense in the same way. But the purpose of that phrase “I’m not saying this as some vague metaphor” was clearly to emphasise that they must send signals in the way they do.</p>

<p>@ coldflame
B&C are wrong because of assortion, between A and B; either A or B. Therefore you dont have to concern about the parallel</p>

<p>What was the question that has “a previous urge to create new things” as an answer?</p>

<p>Was there any question with “easier to remedy mistakes” as an answer?</p>

<p>@ maxyend
‘humans can see effortlessly’ is wrong for sure. the end of the passage mentions some examples of sighted animals and the choice would sensibly be “humans relate more with sighted animals”</p>

<p>@ tpsyflek
i think i had chose easier to remedy mistakes as an answer to one question, but i forgot…</p>

<ol>
<li><p>The text about the emerging Chinese artist and her reference to the French artist - the sentence went something like this: “the deft assurance with which his meaty hands captured the delicate/frail flowers”. Hands are inanimate objects, and here they are said to be ‘capturing’ flowers. Looks like personification right?</p></li>
<li><p>How would the painter (Yuliang?) respond to her husband’s appreciation in the last line? I put “surprise and pleasure”; that right? Here’s the passage (somebody posted it earlier): [Page</a> Title](<a href=“http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:mDlM7WY9TdMJ:zoolander52.tripod.com/theartsection2.6/id1.html+french+artist+lulled+by+meaty+hand&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us]Page”>http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:mDlM7WY9TdMJ:zoolander52.tripod.com/theartsection2.6/id1.html+french+artist+lulled+by+meaty+hand&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us). Here’s what followed the last sentence, clearly showing that Yuliang was ‘elated’ i.e. ‘surprise and pleasure’:</p></li>
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<p>He doesn’t answer. Oddly anxious, Yuliang chews a cuticle. When it stings, she looks down to see that she’s bitten too hard again: blood wells. </p>

<p>“This is how you spend your days now?” he says. </p>

<p>“I mostly do them after I study.” </p>

<p>“Have you had lessons?” </p>

<p>She laughs. “When would I have had lessons?” Then, realizing he means at the Hall, she bites her lip. “No. Never. I—I just like to try to draw things sometimes. I’m no good at all.” </p>

<p>He purses his lips. “Actually, you are. You’re very good.” </p>

<p>The compliment all but takes her breath away. “I’m no Shi Tao,” she manages finally. “You can surely see that–” </p>

<p>“It’s interesting,” he goes on, ignoring the comment.</p>

<ol>
<li><p>I wrote my test in India, and I didn’t have the section including the ‘Audrey Hepburn’ question, or the ‘Gored himself’ question. So is that the experimental section? Does anyone remember the answer to the ‘Dictator felt more and more isolated and no more trusted even his closest associates, resulting in a final lapse of ___" question?</p></li>
<li><p>In the Blues passage, between the two brothers, one of them ‘pounded at the keys in anger(?)’, and the other ‘painfully struggled for mastery’ or something like that. I remember both descriptions having negative connotations, and so I put ‘both indicate their reluctance to learning the piano’ one (the sentence didn’t go like that, but it meant the same). Remember also that ‘like my brothers, my mother had forced me to learn the piano’ … meaning the brothers were also ‘forced’.</p></li>
<li><p>‘Fairness’ in the college athletics passage - clearly it did not refer to ‘everyone gets paid equally’ because the coach, trainer, dean and athletes get paid differently because they all do different jobs with varying degrees of importance. However, ‘all being governed by the same principles’ makes sense, because the coach gets paid for his work, and similarly the athletes should get paid for their work. Right?</p></li>
<li><p>In the college athletics passage 2 - the last paragraph serves to ‘shift the terms of the discussion’ because up until then the author was criticising and being sarcastic about the suggestion to pay athletes. In that paragraph, however, he shifts the discussion to discuss the broader issue of how American people and corporations are ignoring education in favour of sports, and how American education is degrading. He stopped criticising the idea of paying, and was talking of larger concerns.</p></li>
<li><p>“That the pharmaceutical company would benefit from the research was not even hinted in the paper.” I found nothing wrong in the original sentence. Can anybody confirm ‘E’ as the correct answer?</p></li>
<li><p>“Kennedy had began the space program” … clearly ‘had began’ is wrong, because the past participle for ‘begin’ is ‘begun’. Thus it should’ve been “Kennedy had begun the space program”. This wasn’t in the experimental (Pyramids) section.</p></li>
<li><p>Again, in the college athletics question, it should’ve been ‘spectacle’, not ‘exhibit’. Someone said the author viewed the matches in a negative view, which I don’t concur with. It was a show, a grand spectacle, a big celebration which drew a large crowd.</p></li>
<li><p>In the bats question, the metaphor served to show the similarities in human and bat perception (or bats’ senses are closer to ours than we expect), because the author argues that just as we see different wavelengths of light as ‘red’ or ‘blue’, the bats might see different ultrasound signals (or male textures or whatever) as ‘red’ or ‘blue’. The signal is different, but the actual perception by the bat’s brain of the signal might be just like ours.</p></li>
<li><p>What is this discussion about the November 2005 and November 2010 papers? Were questions repeated?</p></li>
<li><p>ColdFlame got hold of the bats passage here: <a href=“http://casweb.nist.ac.th/TOK/TOKWEB2004/TOKWEBFILES/Ways%20of%20Knowing%20PAGE/CORE%20READINGS/Bats%20Sight%20and%20Sound.pdf[/url]”>http://casweb.nist.ac.th/TOK/TOKWEB2004/TOKWEBFILES/Ways%20of%20Knowing%20PAGE/CORE%20READINGS/Bats%20Sight%20and%20Sound.pdf&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/li&gt;
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<p>hi guys, what do you get in a IE qusetion about “adpation of” is the usage of “the adaption of” right? the choice is E?</p>

<p>thank you
what was the other choices other than “a previous urge to create something”?</p>