<p>Due to the bureaucraps at Homeland Security, I have no choice but to apply as an international student.</p>
<p>My question is, how much should I put for the amount expected to pay?
So far I have only looked at the Stanford application, but I’m sure other applications ask that as well.
According to my friend, not putting enough(~51k/year for Stanford) will significantly reduce my chance of acceptance. My parents can probably afford that much, but they will most definitely make me pay them back, plus interest. >.<</p>
<p>I guess I need to give some info. about myself:</p>
<p>GPA:4.43(end of 11th Grade)
SAT: 2160(750V + 720M + 690W) <- retaking in October
EC: Science Bowl(4 years, VP then president & captain, won 2nd place at regionals last year)
Volunteering at local Chinese School (500+ hours and counting)
Classical guitar(4 years, no awards or anything, just for fun)
Cross Country/Track (1 year, no awards, discontinued due to scheduling conflicts)
Awards: 10th place on Southern California Chemistry Olympiad <- not sure if it’s worth putting on applications</p>
<p>Any help/suggestions/advice will be greatly appreciated.
Thank you.</p>
<p>Considering that today is the 6th anniversary of the attack on the World Trade Center,I have no problem with the department of homeland security doing their job. I find this statement a little disconcerting as the net-net is in college admissions, you are either a U.S. citizen, a permanent resident, or an international student, and to this extent so no one is doing anything to you or making you do anything; you are choosing to apply to and are looking to attend a college in the U.S. </p>
<p>Now that that part is out of the way I am sure you have familiarized yourself with Stanford’s FA policy. Since they are not need blind to international students your ability to pay will be a factor. Since you state that your parents can afford to pay, it is likely no matter what your status, citizen, permanent resident or international student your chances for aid would be slim. If your parents are going to make you pay them back, this is an issue that you really need to work out with them because no matter where you apply if your parents have the income and assets that you would be a full freight payer, you are going to pay full freight. You should consider your self blessed and very fortunate because as an international students, you have a lot of choices as far a attending colleges and you are in a better position than a lot of other people.</p>
<p>sybie779 I beleive u are an over patriotic american who believes that American schools are doing we Ints a favour by accepting us. I think it is the opposite. we doing u the favour. Aid is all we need. Yo Gwhite311 u should ask ur parents what amt they will feel comfortable with and fill it in.</p>
<p>First of all you don’t know me from a hole in the ground so don’t ake assumptions about me. It is not about being an over patriotic American but the plan and simple fact that no one owes any one a college education. </p>
<p>While there is a social and moral obligation, your parents don’t owe you a college education, especially one that cost 50k.There are many families in the U.S. who have to sit down with their kids and deny them their dream schools because realistically they must send their children to schools which they can afford. Another country does not owe you an education no less are they under any obligation to foot your bill (would my child be able to attend college in Lagos on your country’s dime?). So after all has been said and done a college education is a priviledge whether you obtain it in the U.S. or elsewhere.</p>
<p>The net-net is that there are only a small handful of schools that are both need blind to international students and also offer a large amount of need based aid. These schools are amongst the most competitive as far as gaining admissions as there are way more candidates for the ~100 seats available (and this is in the larger schools) so for an international student who needs money it is an uphill climb. But if the attitude in your posts is what you present in your application yoru road will be even more difficult. In addition you aren’t winning any points amongst people who may be able to help you in this process.</p>
<p>I apologize if I have offended you. I have been living in the U.S. for the past 7 years, but I have yet to obtain even the permanent residency, let alone citizenship. I’m sure many others have experienced worse, but the whole immigration ordeal is highly frustrating and you cannot understand unless you have experienced it personally. In a way I feel I have been rejected by this country before I have been rejected to any ivies.</p>
<p>I shall take all of your advices and discuss this with my parents, and hope for the best.</p>
<p>" apologize if I have offended you. I have been living in the U.S. for the past 7 years, but I have yet to obtain even the permanent residency, let alone citizenship. I’m sure many others have experienced worse, but the whole immigration ordeal is highly frustrating and you cannot understand unless you have experienced it personally."</p>
<p>And apparently as a person who was not born in this country and seems to feel very little connection with it except for the advantages that citizenship would gain you in college admissions, you can’t understand how offensive it was for you to post on Sept. 11, “Due to the bureaucraps at Homeland Security, I have no choice but to apply as an international student.”</p>