Int'l Morrocan student panicking chance me [A-level predicted A all round, 4A* and 5A at igcse, 1490 SAT, <$20k, electrical engineering]

You would get $30.5k off at U of Alabama.

Most ABET accredited schools will have good job outcomes.

For you, tuition, room and board will be about $20,000. There’s other fees, books, travel etc too

Most other big merit schools are not as aggressive with international kids.

Good career outcomes won’t necessarily help you. The odds are slim you would find a sponsor so you could stay.

As for your chances at the others - I’d say slim to none.

Best of luck

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As an international student, you can work up to 3 years after graduation (on something called “optional practical training”. After that, you will need an employer to sponsor you a work visa and a green card, if you want to continue working and living in the United States.

Getting sponsorship isn’t easy, and it’s expected to become a lot harder so you shouldn’t count on it.

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are you talking about the university i would like to join if yes how can you say that so confidently when two other older members said I’m strong and nobody knows the likelyhood

That’s why I want to get accepted by a good uni

It doesn’t make much difference - electrical engineering is a field that isn’t prestige sensitive. If anything, some employers may have local preferences. You’ll be competing with students from all kinds of schools.

When you apply to jobs, employers ask 1) if you’re authorized to work in the U.S. and 2) whether you need sponsorship now or in the future. Many employers will explicitly state that they will not sponsor.

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Where you go won’t impact sponsorship. What you do at the job will. But very few will sponsor you no matter how good you are. In fact they’ll never hire you to begin with.

There are tons of good universities. I mentioned one you can afford and will get in. It’s very good.

If you say Stanford or bust, then you should focus on your home country.

Good luck.

what is sponsorship and lowk middle east is also somewhere im considering to work in so as long as the uni is well known by people in EE and isn’t too expensive for intl students

At best you will have 3 years of STEM OPT to work with before you have to return home. Employment rates that colleges publish are far more relevant to US citizens/green card holders. You should expect that you will be searching for a job long term elsewhere. For US employability in engineering your degree should also be abet accredited, I don’t know much about that but I know not all schools are (including some of the top tier ones) so you’d need to check that.

I’m going to also be blunt here, with your A level predictions all A (and no A* if I understand correctly), + SAT below 1500+, you are at a disadvantage in the international pool. Understand that admit rates for internationals are likely something like 1-2% at the schools you mentioned. All the colleges you mention will be test required for the cycle you will be applying in, and the latest middle 50 SAT scores are :
Harvard - don’t give composite, ERW 740-780/M 760-800
Yale - 1500-1560
MIT - ERW 740-780/M 780-800
Princeton - ERW 740-780/M 770-800
Stanford - 1510-1570
To differentiate yourself as an international you should ideally be in the upper parts of those ranges. You don’t give your SAT breakdown but I’d think an engineering applicant at these schools should be showing very close to or at 800 Math.

On the positive side, I don’t think Morocco is generally very well represented at US schools so you have a slight advantage there for some schools.

Under $20k is going to be hard because the schools that are both need blind and meet need tend to be the above ones (one or two more). There are some other schools you could try, maybe something like NYU which will meet need now but is need aware for internationals (so harder to get into).

Are you looking at universities in Europe as well? They will tend to be a lot cheaper and there are of course some excellent options.

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I mean I’ve tried to look into Europe but i’m not sure which are good

To work long-term in the US, you need a work visa. That can only be obtained through an employer. They need to file paperwork with the government and go through a legal process that is costly and cumbersome.

That’s good. I’m not familiar with the employment laws there, but if that’s an option for you, that helps.

Look into Union College.

I don’t get it - you asked for a good school, assured, at $20K. That’s Alabama in the US.

Other schools are a reach or are need aware - with you needing a lot of money - makes them a reach.

You can apply to the ones you mentioned - but if you want an assured, ABET accredited school so you have a place to land no matter what, I gave you one.

Everything else is a dream but not likely a reality.

i didn’t say anything man sorry i looked into it and it’s apparently 60k

I noted before that it’s a bit over $50K but for tuition, room and board - its’ under $50K.

The cost breakdown is $53,796 total but if you exclude $1200 personal expenses, $2314 Health Insurance, and $700 books, it’s below.

You will bet $30,500 off in merit. They give you merit based on your GPA and test score.

That’s why it’s under $20K.

Required Funding & Estimated Expenses - International

Student needs health insurance…

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And any job requiring a government security clearance will be off limits.

My husband was a career electrical engineer. For a while his company did sponsor recent grads, but even they have significantly reduced this practice.

They also did some work that required security clearances.

You have mentioned that your family can pay $20,000 a year, but the colleges will determine what they expect your family to pay based on their income and assets…for need based aid purposes.

For merit aid, you need at least a full tuition scholarship. $20,000 will barely cover room, board, personal expenses, book, travel…and health insurance.

@ucbalumnus any other suggestions…that could come in at the right price point for this international student?

Yes - I’m simply boiling it down to tuition, room and board - but they will need insurance, funding, and i’m sure other things.

But it’s a basis to play off of - and I’m not sure they can do better. Perhaps at meets needs schools, but can they get into those?

is it based on my HS grades if yes will I need to maintain high GPA during my undergrad

At most any school that gives you merit aid, you’ll need to keep a 3.0. Sometimes more.

Bama is 3.0 but they are very generous with probation semesters.

No one will hire you without a 3.0 anyway.

I don’t think you understand - given the situation you’ve suggested, you are not in a position to demand. You have to take what you are given.

is a 3.0 realistic in engineering