Iraq For Sale: The War Profiteers

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<p>Has anyone else seen this film? </p>

<p>It tells how the private contractors in Iraq (many with no-bid contracts) fleece American taxpayers and endanger both their own employees and US troops. </p>

<p>The waste is mind-boggling. The greed is so extreme, it is like treason.</p>

<p>See it if you have not!</p>

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<p>Yep, saw it today. I agree it is a must-see…</p>

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<p>“The waste is mind-boggling. The greed is so extreme, it is like treason.”</p>

<p>It IS treason, brought to you by the Hate America crowd that surround Mr. Sleaze and Mr. Cheap.</p>

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<p>Hahaha you guys are ridiculous, ofcourse people are gonna make money off of war. WWII was the reason America pulled out of the great depression. In every war the companies that produce military supplies and work for the government always make money because the deman has gone up for them. The way u refer to them as greedy disgusts me. Someone has to produce things for our military and god bless these people who work like this while you sit around and barrage them for making an honest living</p>

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<p>golani, have you seen the film? </p>

<p>This has nothing to do with manufacturing supplies, ammunition, vehicles. This is about “outsourcing” jobs like running the mess halls, providing transportation, building barracks-- stuff that the army itself used to do.</p>

<p>Now that for-profit companies are doing it, they are cutting corners, charging immense markups, and padding their expenses within ‘cost plus’ contracts. The corporations are making millions upon millions in profit. If the army were doing these same tasks, there would be no skim and the quality of the work would be better.</p>

<p>One horriffic example is that convoys of EMPTY trucks are sent up and down extremely dangerous roads making phantom ‘deliveries’ for which our government is then charged. Civilian contract-worker drivers are put at risk-- often killed-- when they have NO CARGO. This is all a expense-padding tactic. It is criminal. </p>

<p>The corner-cutting also results in direct dangers to the troops, such as providing them shower water filled with pathogens because it is improperly sterilized. Such as mess halls that save money when they serve meals at three specific times per day, rather than on a 24 hour clock-- so insurgents know exactly when to target them. Stuff like that.</p>

<p>See the film, then let’s discuss.</p>

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<p>and most of them are flag waving, Bible thumping, morally superior with high family value crowd.</p>

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<p>I looked for this film at Netflix and noticed that it has a “very long” wait.</p>

<p>So it sounds like word is getting out about it.</p>

<p>A book to read that gives good insight into the Iraqi situation is “Prince of the Marshes” by Rory Stewart.</p>

<p>Steward was part of the Coalition Provisional Administration, and he gives an insider’s view into Coalition efforts in Iraq and their efficacy.</p>

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<p>Fendrock, there are viewing parties on the 14th and 15th. Check out MoveOn.org.</p>

<p><a href=“http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?action_id=59[/url]”>http://pol.moveon.org/event/events/index.html?action_id=59&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

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<p>You can find lists of screenings here:
<a href=“http://iraqforsale.org/screenings.php[/url]”>http://iraqforsale.org/screenings.php&lt;/a&gt;
(just enter your zip code to find a screening near you)</p>

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<p>Or go to the website, order the DVD for $12 and then pass it on to your public library.</p>

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<p>Non-performance on contracted deliverables or even possible fraudulent behavior should be reported and properly investigated.</p>

<p>Was this done? Or is this a political discussion?</p>

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<p>I personally feel this movie is probably the same sort of think like Michael Moores 9.11 movie</p>

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<p>Well, one of the customer reviews at Netflix was from someone who had served in the armed forces in Iraq.</p>

<p>He (or she) said the contents of the movie would come as no surprise to anyone who had served in Iraq.</p>

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<p>for every soldier u find that will say that i can find you ten that will say the opposite.</p>

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<p>parent2noles, the answer to your question is yes, it has been reported, but Republicans in Congress voted down amendments to investigate the allegations of abuse, and the companies (primarily Halliburton and its subsidiaries) continue to get no-bid, cost plus contracts for support functions for the war.</p>

<p>See:
New Fuel To Halliburton Fraud Fire
<a href=“http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/17/eveningnews/main636644.shtml[/url]”>http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/08/17/eveningnews/main636644.shtml&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Halliburton Fraud Lawsuit Details Super Bowl Party
<a href=“Halliburton Fraud Lawsuit Details Super Bowl Party”>Halliburton Fraud Lawsuit Details Super Bowl Party;

<p>Democrats hold hearing on KBR’s Iraq water contamination
<a href=“http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/dpc_hearing.html[/url]”>http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/dpc_hearing.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Republicans kill amendment to investigate Halliburton contract abuse:
<a href=“http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/ensign.html[/url]”>http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/news/ensign.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Special Investigations: Committee on Government Reform
<a href=“http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/investigations.asp?Issue=Iraq+Reconstruction[/url]”>http://www.democrats.reform.house.gov/investigations.asp?Issue=Iraq+Reconstruction&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>Robbery, not reconstruction, in Iraq
<a href=“http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/04/18/robbery_not_reconstruction_in_iraq/[/url]”>http://www.boston.com/news/world/middleeast/articles/2006/04/18/robbery_not_reconstruction_in_iraq/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;

<p>–
That’ll get you started. Google turns up 2,020,000 results for a search for the words “Halliburton fraud Iraq”, and I’ve only given you highlights from the first page, so I’m glad to supply more if you get tired of reading the above.</p>

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<p>golani, I repeat: see the film.</p>

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<p>War profiteers endanger American lives, and endanger the mission (whatever it is), and in doing so, give aid and comfort to the enemy. Isn’t that the definition of treason? </p>

<p>Anyone who supports them, or doesn’t think it is big deal, is just part of the Hate America crowd, with passes into the Oval Office supplied by Jack Abramoff.</p>

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<p>Golani89, Hasn’t seen Michael Moore’s 911? Funding Father doesn’t seem to have seen it either. </p>

<p>(I haven’t, too) I still want to keep an open and fair minded opinion. At least until after the elections.</p>

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<p>I actually have seen it. It absolute trash, Complete lies and sleaze. Instead of disproving half of the claims in that movie or showing you some dishonest techniques moore uses, i just want you to know this. Prior to the movie being released Moore initially referred to it as fact, as a documentary, however real close to the release date the movie changed from a documentary to a “editiorial” as moore now referred to it. Aside from that, Moore’s movie and the embrace of it by many notable democrats was one of the things that hurt the dems in the 2004 elections</p>

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<p>Well, if that doesn’t float your boat, try this:</p>

<p><a href=“http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Life-Emerald-City-Inside/dp/1400044871/sr=8-1/qid=1160962678/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-3927249-5631206?ie=UTF8&s=books[/url]”>http://www.amazon.com/Imperial-Life-Emerald-City-Inside/dp/1400044871/sr=8-1/qid=1160962678/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-3927249-5631206?ie=UTF8&s=books&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;